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M140i Vs M2 Dyno

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Post by TitanTim » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:46 pm

Interesting thread on babybmw and some stock dyno comparisons

http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=93627

Very little in it performance wise and just shows how good the B58 engine is in stock form :)

Would still love an M2 though but the 15 odd K over the M140 is not really worth it for that little extra handling :|

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Post by MACK » Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:16 pm

I guess the difference is even greater when discounts come into play. Makes it increasingly difficult to justify the M2 for the average Joe. But for some image is priceless I guess. I know a few M2/4 owners and they openly admit they will never use them properly, its all about image and knowing you have the range topper.
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Post by TitanTim » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:46 pm

MACK wrote:I guess the difference is even greater when discounts come into play. Makes it increasingly difficult to justify the M2 for the average Joe. But for some image is priceless I guess. I know a few M2/4 owners and they openly admit they will never use them properly, its all about image and knowing you have the range topper.
I think you are right MACK but shows how mainstream BMW models have now come perilisly close to the M models, I think years ago this wasn't the case where spending the extra was worth it. I might be talking rubbish though :lol:

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Post by Swiftly » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:31 pm

Interesting results, I am seriously contemplating a M240 and have been doing some research myself. The salesman at the dealership even said it is hard to justify the extra 15K and increased running costs and road tax. Good video comparing M240 vs M2 with side by side tests towards end of video. https://youtu.be/cphuMPNcdTY
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Post by MACK » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:47 am

TitanTim wrote:
MACK wrote:I guess the difference is even greater when discounts come into play. Makes it increasingly difficult to justify the M2 for the average Joe. But for some image is priceless I guess. I know a few M2/4 owners and they openly admit they will never use them properly, its all about image and knowing you have the range topper.
I think you are right MACK but shows how mainstream BMW models have now come perilisly close to the M models, I think years ago this wasn't the case where spending the extra was worth it. I might be talking rubbish though :lol:

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The motor industry can be a funny place, I remember when Porsche launched the Cayman and wanted a £5k premium over the Boxster. Every other manufacturer charges a premium for the Cab not the other way round! Still they got it and its just as popular today!
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Post by buzyg » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:47 pm

Driving is about having fun and testing your metal, going around corners. IMHO. It's not about how fast you can accelerate in a straight line. Interesting comparison though. :thumbsup:
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Post by TitanTim » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:40 pm

Swiftly wrote:Interesting results, I am seriously contemplating a M240 and have been doing some research myself. The salesman at the dealership even said it is hard to justify the extra 15K and increased running costs and road tax. Good video comparing M240 vs M2 with side by side tests towards end of video. https://youtu.be/cphuMPNcdTY
Go for it, the M240/140 I reckon are some the best cars BMW make at the mo :)

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Post by GuidoK » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:21 pm

No LSD on m140i/M240i..... :roll:
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Post by Twin Turbo » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:49 pm

Well last month I went down to the dealers, was offered a M240i @ £350 per month - but a M2 was £750 over 4 yrs.

Thats £19,200 more!

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Post by TitanTim » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:35 pm

GuidoK wrote:No LSD on m140i/M240i..... :roll:
It's a dealer fit option, somewhere around 2K :)

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Post by TitanTim » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:39 pm

Twin Turbo wrote:Well last month I went down to the dealers, was offered a M240i @ £350 per month - but a M2 was £750 over 4 yrs.

Thats £19,200 more!
I can't remember what the customer contribution is at 350 per month, not much, on the M2 its around 7K :o and £560 per month when I enquired at the time. I just felt it was way too much over the M140i, I know its an \\\M and all that, but still.

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Post by GuidoK » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:50 pm

TitanTim wrote:
GuidoK wrote:No LSD on m140i/M240i..... :roll:
It's a dealer fit option, somewhere around 2K :)

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The strange thing is that you cant find that anywhere, also not in in the ETK
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Post by TitanTim » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:57 pm

GuidoK wrote:
TitanTim wrote:
GuidoK wrote:No LSD on m140i/M240i..... :roll:
It's a dealer fit option, somewhere around 2K :)

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The strange thing is that you cant find that anywhere, also not in in the ETK
http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/topics/disco ... =9866.html

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Post by GuidoK » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:23 pm

ah right. Definate must for such a car.
Should be stock imho, but with bmw nothing is stock :lol:
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Post by Twin Turbo » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:42 pm

TitanTim wrote:
Twin Turbo wrote:Well last month I went down to the dealers, was offered a M240i @ £350 per month - but a M2 was £750 over 4 yrs.

Thats £19,200 more!
I can't remember what the customer contribution is at 350 per month, not much, on the M2 its around 7K :o and £560 per month when I enquired at the time. I just felt it was way too much over the M140i, I know its an \\\M and all that, but still.

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It was about 4K, if I remember correctly

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