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Post by and7rp2 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:33 pm

Have been noticing a small rattle on start up , from the front of the engine.
Reading on here I decided it was the vanos causing the noise.
Mike, ( ducklakeview ) had done the mod to my exhaust and he mentioned he could do the vanos.
Well today Mike has done the job , big thanks :thumbsup: , but this isn’t the only reason for the post.
My 04 zed has only done 64000 miles and I have always been pleasantly pleased with the performance from the 3.0 engine , however the drive home from Mikes , the car has transformed into a sports car, my god there is a whole load of mid range torque :o .
My point , I’ve known no different as I’ve had the car for 2years but only done 6000 miles. But those of you who have had your car over a number of years have you noticed a drop off in mid range ?
The seals on my vanos pistons where rock hard and passing oil badly !!
Can’t recommend having this job done enough , wether you use Mike or not ,it’s amazing :thumbsup:
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Post by Ducklakeview » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:12 pm

and7rp2 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:33 pm Have been noticing a small rattle on start up , from the front of the engine.
Reading on here I decided it was the vanos causing the noise.
Mike, ( ducklakeview ) had done the mod to my exhaust and he mentioned he could do the vanos.
Well today Mike has done the job , big thanks :thumbsup: , but this isn’t the only reason for the post.
My 04 zed has only done 64000 miles and I have always been pleasantly pleased with the performance from the 3.0 engine , however the drive home from Mikes , the car has transformed into a sports car, my god there is a whole load of mid range torque :o .
My point , I’ve known no different as I’ve had the car for 2years but only done 6000 miles. But those of you who have had your car over a number of years have you noticed a drop off in mid range ?
The seals on my vanos pistons where rock hard and passing oil badly !!
Can’t recommend having this job done enough , wether you use Mike or not ,it’s amazing :thumbsup:
Cheers Andy, told you it would transform the car!!

Mike

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Post by ph001 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:26 pm

Is this the seals on the solenoids Mike?
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Post by Marlon » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:37 pm

Mine has a little rattle on start up :cry:
I think its as I pull away in 1st gear actually - sounds like something is vibrating or lose in the engine bay. Not given much attention until now :(
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Post by idej_z4 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:44 pm

Marlon wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:37 pm Mine has a little rattle on start up :cry:
I think its as I pull away in 1st gear actually - sounds like something is vibrating or lose in the engine bay. Not given much attention until now :(
I thought it was only the older version Z’ds that needed the Vanos doing. Didn’t they change it or something in the later version that we have?

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Post by Marlon » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:46 pm

idej_jedi wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:44 pm
Marlon wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:37 pm Mine has a little rattle on start up :cry:
I think its as I pull away in 1st gear actually - sounds like something is vibrating or lose in the engine bay. Not given much attention until now :(
I thought it was only the older version Z’ds that needed the Vanos doing. Didn’t they change it or something in the later version that we have?
Actually, yeah I remember reading that somewhere, and mine goes like a stabbed rat when I press the pedal on the right
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Post by idej_z4 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:54 pm

Marlon wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:46 pm
idej_jedi wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:44 pm
Marlon wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:37 pm Mine has a little rattle on start up :cry:
I think its as I pull away in 1st gear actually - sounds like something is vibrating or lose in the engine bay. Not given much attention until now :(
I thought it was only the older version Z’ds that needed the Vanos doing. Didn’t they change it or something in the later version that we have?
Actually, yeah I remember reading that somewhere, and mine goes like a stabbed rat when I press the pedal on the right
Stabbing rats eh...is that what you moderators get up to in your spare time. :D :P

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Post by mcbeee » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:58 pm

Stabbed rats generally rollover and die, not sure I want my car to behave
like that.... :lol: :lol:
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Post by Ducklakeview » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:03 am

ph001 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:26 pm Is this the seals on the solenoids Mike?
No, the seals on the actual pistons inside the cylinders attached to the front of the camshafts. These are controlled by the solenoids which let the oil in, but as the seals die after as little as 30k, it just gushes back out into the engine and doesn't advance the camshafts. You don't get any errors, although they can rattle a little when cold. What you also don't get is the massive wedge of torque between 2k and 5k that the system was designed to give you. You don't lose out on top end power, just mid range grunt.

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Post by Boris » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:18 am

Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

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Post by Ducklakeview » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:35 am

Boris wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:18 am Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

Cheers

Nev
2.2 suffers with same problem. Disa valves on all of the M54 engines can lack up and fall apart..

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Post by salb » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:35 am

Hi mike,

A newbie here and only had the car 3 days and has done 45,000 miles.

My question is when is it recommended to refurb the vanos on the E89, it is a 2012.

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Post by Boris » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:36 am

Ducklakeview wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:35 am
Boris wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:18 am Mike,

Is this only on the 3.0? have the 2.2 Jan 2005 reg (End Nov 2004 Production) and was wondering it that has the same issue.

I've just about to turn 60k so thought it would be ok but if it can be an issue and you are ever in the area (Durham) give me a shout please.

Also could the DISA be an issue with my model.

Cheers

Nev
2.2 suffers with same problem. Disa valves on all of the M54 engines can lack up and fall apart..

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Cheers Mike

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Post by Smartbear » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:36 am

salb wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:35 am Hi mike,

A newbie here and only had the car 3 days and has done 45,000 miles.

My question is when is it recommended to refurb the vanos on the E89, it is a 2012.

thanks
sal

Hi, I don’t think the n20 engine is known to have vanos issues-since the n52 engine appeared they seem to have got on top of the seal material used :)
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Post by Rusky » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:29 pm

This is high up on my list as mine lacks any grunt below about 3.5k. A trip to Mike will be planned in the early part of next year. :thumbsup:
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