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Post by jamesgarbett » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:29 pm

So the orange pad warning light is on

What's good in brake pads at present?

For an E85 2.5Si

Online ideally
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Post by Ducklakeview » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:37 pm

Watching this for suggestions myself. .

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Post by mmm-five » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:36 am

What is your criteria for the type of pad are you looking for?

Standard road pad, with instant bite?

Full race pad that works well after repeated heavy braking?

Cheapest pad you can find?

Or something inbetween?
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Post by Twin Turbo » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:47 am

Would I also add - normal brake dust or minimal brake dust?

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Post by kis » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:09 am

I'm for better performance than OEM. Not worried about dust... but if it's ridiculously noisy then that would be a no-no.

Yellowstuff pads? Stoptech? Be nice to hear other people's opinions / recommendations :)
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Post by MJJamieson » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:15 am

ATE do ceramic pads available at ECP, quiet, no dust and work really well.
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Post by jamesgarbett » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:54 am

I'm looking for road pads not race so instant bite, minimal noise, don't care about dust, happy to pay more but not silly money
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Post by Ewazix » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:25 am

I've posted this elsewhere after some research when I was changing pads. I went with Textar epads high-ceramic content lower dust. They feel like oem but any dust that comes off is light and not full of the burnt iron that is the cause of the rock hard cake others can produce.

Textar are an OEM supplier for BMW (Textar are actually part of TMD who also make Pagid and Mintex)

Jurid are part of Bendix and make after-market OE Quality brakes. ATE (Part of Continental Tyres) again are after-market OE quality.

Euro regulations prevent any pad sold for road use performing by + or - 15% differently to the original specification. So as long as it's a genuine Euro-stamped make there is little chance that you will actually detect a difference in performance between different road spec pads, and any improvement in one area of performance usually requires a compromise in another e.g. fade Vs initial/cold bite. So in slightly simplistic terms gaining 15% improvement in fade probably means sacrificing 15% in cold bite (choose running out of brakes on a hill Vs in to the back of your neighbour at the first junction :P )

But durability isn't the same as performance and some aftermarket brands have reports of material breaking-up or coming unglued from the back so it's worth doing a search before spending on supposedly 'up-rated' pads (check out ebc break-up complaints). But you can't go wrong with any of the big names and despite everybody swearing X is better than Y I doubt an average road user can tell any difference between them in a blind test (I emphasise this all relates to road legal spec pads)

Euro ECE R90 aftermarket brake specification regs http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/tran ... r3e_01.pdf
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Post by jamesgarbett » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:26 pm

Thanks where's a good place online to get Textar?
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Post by Ewazix » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:41 pm

jamesgarbett wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:26 pm Thanks where's a good place online to get Textar?
I think I got mine from Car Parts For Less who seem to be part of EuroCarparts but generally cheaper even without the ECP discounts. Although it doesn't look like they have the Textar E-pads in at the moment just the standard ones (which are still excellent but a lot cheaper).
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Post by kis » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:11 pm

Lots of the things I've read always lead back to OEM (Textar, Jurid, Pagid). Still undecided... :?
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Post by Scooba_Steve » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:36 pm

Also have e-pads, happy with them so far, not tried on track yet but perfectly fine on the road.
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Post by jamesgarbett » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:57 pm

Thanks do I just need the pads and new wear indicator? Nothing else required?
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Post by Ewazix » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:08 pm

jamesgarbett wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:57 pm Thanks do I just need the pads and new wear indicator? Nothing else required?
If your warning light came on then yes you need a wear indicator (One per axle i.e. one for the front, one for the rear wheels). and some copper grease or similar anti-squeal for the backs of the pads.

Whilst you are in there check the discs for heavy grooves or a deep wear lip (I tend to replace discs with pads either every set or two sets depending how they look). Also the wear pattern on the pads which can diagnose other issues, a really simple guide to pad wear here
> https://www.knowyourparts.com/technical ... ear-chart/

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Post by kis » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:56 pm

You may also want some brake pad paste (for the back of the brake pad)? Forget what it's called! I've not personally used copper grease here... but Ewazix has, so I've no reason to doubt you can :)

Also maybe some copper paste for between the alloy and the brake disc - hopefully makes it a bit easier to get off next time! (Sometimes they fuse slightly).
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BMW Family History (past and present):
1 Series - E87
3 Series - E46 Coupe, E46 M3, E90 (x3)
4 Series - F36, F82 M4
5 Series - E34 (x2), E39
7 Series - E32
X5 - E53, E70
X6 - E71

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