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Post by Ducklakeview » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:53 pm

More power :)

I could swap to an Si, but for 30 odd bhp? Plus with the time and effort, not to mention money I've spent on mine getting it the way I like and properly sorted, spending maybe £3 or £4,000 going that route seems a waste of money to me, especially as I'll then start fettling it..

An ///M is out for me, like my auto too much, so is an E89, as no boot space with the roof down, so couldn't use it for the cash and carry...

Which leaves me with getting more power from the M54B30...

Turbo is a no no I think, due to limited under bonnet space, which brings me neatly to Beedub, and his ESS kit...

I've seen this; http://esstuning.com/ess-m52tu-m54-vt1- ... er-system/ but doubt that's all I will need...

So does anyone know what else is required from a parts POV? And what sort of gains I'd be looking at?

I will no doubt need an LSD, so I think Bird's are the go to guys for that, unless I can make an M3 one fit?

Lastly, will the ZF 5HP 18 box cope?

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Post by bz4kev » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:00 pm

what about a remap would you get gains from that just a thought :D
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Post by Machine monkey » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:05 pm

Look on the ess web site they have 2 kits for the m54.
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Post by Ducklakeview » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:07 pm

bz4kev wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:00 pm what about a remap would you get gains from that just a thought :D
I reckon you'd struggle to see 10% from a remap on a normally aspirated engine.

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Post by Ducklakeview » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:08 pm

Machine monkey wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:05 pm Look on the ess web site they have 2 kits for the m54.
Yup, have seen those Mat, just wanted to know what else is needed so I can weigh up the ££, will be fitting myself so labour not an issue.

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Post by Machine monkey » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:26 pm

I think any of the brought off the shelf kits have everything you need. Only Some kits are not cooled o be carful on that. Brake upgrades are not a bad idea. And the lsd is a good improvement. Don't just look at birds but also m factory I have one of these fitted it myself simple job. Or you can put an M rear end in also getting a brake upgrade but that's probably the most exsphesive option.
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Post by Scooba_Steve » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:28 pm

Get the LSD first, it makes the car so much better to drive you'll probably forget about adding power for a while.
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Post by markplant » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:30 pm

Also speak with Mac, who runs zedfest as he did his s/c
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Post by Marlon » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:44 pm

Ducklakeview wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:07 pm
bz4kev wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:00 pm what about a remap would you get gains from that just a thought :D
I reckon you'd struggle to see 10% from a remap on a normally aspirated engine.

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Step up to an Si, then remap and you're pushing 290 bhp :thumbsup: :driving:
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Post by JAD » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:29 pm

Marlon wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:44 pm
Ducklakeview wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:07 pm
bz4kev wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:00 pm what about a remap would you get gains from that just a thought :D
I reckon you'd struggle to see 10% from a remap on a normally aspirated engine.

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Step up to an Si, then remap and you're pushing 290 bhp :thumbsup: :driving:
:? You gain 25hp from a remap on a N/A car? What were the before and after figures if you don't mind me asking as that really seems a tad optimistic (by 20bhp...).

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Post by jamie_z4 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:31 pm

JAD wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:29 pm
Marlon wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:44 pm
Ducklakeview wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:07 pm

I reckon you'd struggle to see 10% from a remap on a normally aspirated engine.

Mike
Step up to an Si, then remap and you're pushing 290 bhp :thumbsup: :driving:
:? You gain 25hp from a remap on a N/A car? What were the before and after figures if you don't mind me asking as that really seems a tad optimistic (by 20bhp...).

honestly! The N52 is very tuneable for an NA engine, i got 218bhp with RR graph from my 177bhp 2.5i facelift unfortunately not got the graph any more - however if u research N52 mapping its very plausable, not so much with the M54.
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Post by JAD » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:44 pm

jamie_z4 wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:31 pm
JAD wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:29 pm
Marlon wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:44 pm

Step up to an Si, then remap and you're pushing 290 bhp :thumbsup: :driving:
:? You gain 25hp from a remap on a N/A car? What were the before and after figures if you don't mind me asking as that really seems a tad optimistic (by 20bhp...).

honestly! The N52 is very tuneable for an NA engine, i got 218bhp with RR graph from my 177bhp 2.5i facelift unfortunately not got the graph any more - however if u research N52 mapping its very plausable, not so much with the M54.
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So your car went from a 177bhp book figure to 218bhp? What did the rollers say before and after?

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Post by Marlon » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:49 pm

JAD wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:29 pm
Marlon wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:44 pm
Ducklakeview wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:07 pm

I reckon you'd struggle to see 10% from a remap on a normally aspirated engine.

Mike
Step up to an Si, then remap and you're pushing 290 bhp :thumbsup: :driving:
:? You gain 25hp from a remap on a N/A car? What were the before and after figures if you don't mind me asking as that really seems a tad optimistic (by 20bhp...).
Quoted gains were 9%
Didn't have Dyno runs, so can't back up that figure.
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Post by JAD » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:57 pm

Marlon wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:49 pm
JAD wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:29 pm
Marlon wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:44 pm

Step up to an Si, then remap and you're pushing 290 bhp :thumbsup: :driving:
:? You gain 25hp from a remap on a N/A car? What were the before and after figures if you don't mind me asking as that really seems a tad optimistic (by 20bhp...).
Quoted gains were 9%
Didn't have Dyno runs, so can't back up that figure.
Thanks Marlon. As you'll appreciate, I'll be taking quoted gains with a pinch of salt unless backed up by a decent/trustworthy dyno graph!

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