Deepsea blue PAINT EASILY MARKED

IanA

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Has anyone else had this problem? The paintwork on my Z4 marks so easily. Any bird muck seems to etch into the lacquer even if it is washed almost immediately. Any thoughts?
 
It does not sound good. The dealer tried to sell me paintwork and interior protection on my new E89 last week. They said the modern water-based paint is more easily damaged by bird droppings and tree sap.
 
I had my E85 treated in NL with a teflon like substance which cuts the stone chips down by eat least half, and also you can leave bird droppings, in the sun, for a day (so they claim - not tested).

Not cheap at about €400, but no more waxing required either after that.
 
Competely agree - it does mark very easily. Youl will need a fairly high cutting Menzerna polish to get rid of the bird etching marks. I also bought some touch up paint to cover over a few small stone chip marks on the front bumper. Its a terrific colour, but difficult to keep looking good.

Collinite 915 and FK1000p are apparently 2 of the most durable waxes on the market.
 
ksher said:
Can good wax after every car wash create a tough barrier against bird droppings, etc?

I think if the droppings are particularly acidic, they will just cut through any wax, then go onto kill the clearcoat. :(
 
http://www.protech.nl/sommaire.php?langue=GB

You may want to check it out as it has certainly prevented stone chips on my previous Toledo blue Z (not a single one) and the M is doing pretty good as well.
 
Breaker said:
It's not so much bird droppings, but how easy it stone chips! :o
Some dreadful stone chips on ours, a lot worse than the SLK and I thought that was prone for it :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
Actually have a gouge out the plastic front bumper just above grill and also a chip out the grill as well as 3 or 4 really deep chips out the bonnet :headbang:
 
I bought a bottle of Deep Sea Blue touch up paint and lacquer to hide a couple of chips on the front bumper. One was actually on the headlight washer cover. The brushes that came with the bottles were way too big and I ended up putting too much paint on initially, so wiped it off and used a cocktail stick instead! :D Gradually put more on until the chips were nearly filled in. Its by no means perfect but has taken away the obvious white looking 'chip' marks. I was quite pleased with my efforts! :P Thankfully the bonnet is ok.

What sort of condition are other owners bits of side trim in (the bits below the door, at the bottom of the car), especially near the wheels? The paint on mine, especially next to the wheels can only be described as "rough", even after claying it makes no difference. :?
 
It really is a shame the quality of the paint lacquer seems so prone to environmental damage. Seems a significant shortcoming of a £30K+ car, however we are where we are. Can anyone recommend a quality wax product for self application. I have just purchased the BMW nano tech hardwax which allegedly my car was treated with as a part of the wax and seal deal. I will let you know how it fairs. I would be interested in knowing if anyone has found a wax that does resist bird droppings. Im not talking the really acidic sort produced by gulls just house martin cack :-)
 
I think the most effective way is to cover the whole car with clear film, e.g. 3M. So the paintwork is permanently protected.

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Scotchgard_Paint_Protection/Film/
 
I had the seal and protect too but the laquer under the sun is showing signs of contamination from pollen and/or volcano fallout.
Wifes been ill and car sat for a week in drive without moving or being cleaned.

Defo getting professional detail next month, although bought claybar etc last week (never used one before but will give it a bash! :thumbsup:
 
Z4 Beemer said:
I think its just these damn water based modern paints. :roll:

That wouldn't explain it IMO, it's strickly the clear coat that protects, and if anything, it should be of better quality than the previous generation...but obviously not in this case :?

Mercedes, among others, has been using a CeramiClear, nanotechnology ceramic clear coat for the last several years. As far as I know, other manufacturers such as Porsche and Aston MArtin also do. PPG developped the product. You would think that BMW would of followed suit on this superior finish protection. Shame on them if they didn't :thumbsdown:
 
I've got the deep blue colour and I couldn't agree more.... it's a nightmare to keep it looking good! In fact, I've got to go and get some touch up for the chips here and there.... does anyone know whether you need to buy a pot of lacquer as well as the base paint.... or just the paint will do ?
 
I bought this a while back:

http://www.carpaintrepair.co.uk/bmw-z4-series-touch-up-paint-2105-0.html

which included a free small pot of clearcoat lacquer.

You supply them with part of your chassis code, which tells the exact paint colour. A76 is Deep Sea Blue. You really need to use something like a toothpick to fill the chips in, the brushes that come with the paint are way too big (for the chips I had anyway). The two chips I filled in are not any where near professional looking, but it takes the "stand out like a sore thumb" look of the white chip mark away.
 
Cheers Beemer - I'll give them a bash. Yeah I've had problems with using brushes that were too big - before. Then once you start... there's no going back... and you end up painting an area three times the size of the original chip !! Did you apply the lacquer with a toothpick an'all ?
 
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