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3.5iS- will this be a classic?

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Mr Tidy » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:44 pm

Paulr wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:51 pm Looking forward to my 8-Track coming into fashion again.
I hope you have plenty of patience then - it could take some time! I mean they were pretty crap in the 70s, so aren't likely to get any better! :lol:
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Post by GuidoK » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:56 pm

Mr Tidy wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:44 pm I mean they were pretty crap in the 70s, so aren't likely to get any better! :lol:
I think for the hipster community its not so much what is better, but more whats more 'authentic'.

Bit like classic car nuts I reckon :roll:
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Post by Mr Tidy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:58 am

GuidoK wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:56 pm
Mr Tidy wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:44 pm I mean they were pretty crap in the 70s, so aren't likely to get any better! :lol:
I think for the hipster community its not so much what is better, but more whats more 'authentic'.

Bit like classic car nuts I reckon :roll:
Great news - I'm looking forward to my Sony Walkman making me a millionaire! I mean it's "authentic" after all. :lol:
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Post by Paulr » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:29 pm

You are right, they were rubbish back then. Some things are best left in the past!
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Post by Burgy100 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:53 pm

Just to light blue touch paper and stand well back again. but......there are only 414 3.5iS on the road! Down 21 from 2017. :poke:

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/b ... e35is_auto
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Post by extrablatt » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:55 pm

One of those 21 was me shipping my car to Sydney 8)
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Post by Burgy100 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:01 pm

extrablatt wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:55 pm One of those 21 was me shipping my car to Sydney 8)
Get in there sir.. :driving:
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Post by step_change » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:03 pm

I love mine. Classic though? Lol..... There is so much electronic and temperamental gear on them that they will all have been written off long before then :rofl:
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Post by 9designs » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:19 pm

If only it had been given an M
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Post by Chippie » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:08 pm

What is it that people want from a classic car, others to stare and say “wow I which I had one”, well for me if you are happy with the car you drive than what does it matter what others think.
If being a classic means that it has appreciated in value well when new a mk1 golf gti was around £7800 OTR, today a pristine example is worth around £15000. A new gti is around £25000. If you had invested £7800 in 1983 today it would be worth over half a million, very few cars can be seen as an investment.
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Post by Silverstar » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:23 pm

bob4333 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:25 am Contrary to how it feels today, the Jaguar E type was floundering at it's death in June 1974. The Company just couldn't sell them and had fields full of them parked up with no where to go.

Different story 40 years on. Admittedly, the car has generated a lot of design and aesthetic appreciation that was only partially acknowledged in it's day, but for what it was and did - it was a standout car (for some). Used values went way down low before they hit the eye watering overpriced levels of today.

Now I'm not comparing the Z4 with an E type (the world caught up and overtook that "standout car") and if you remove the emotion the Z4 is a much better car anyway. There are also so many good cars about today we're spoilt for choice, but the Z4 (especially the "35" variants) have a lot going for them. They may not have sold in huge numbers but owners tend to love 'em and I suspect many are in longer term ownership because the fad hasn't yet worn off. And 2 seater sports cars tend to have a wider classic appeal, with "curvy" cars more so than "angular" (imo).

So, if you'd asked an E type owner back in the day if his car was going to be a classic? ............ Nah!

I'm not so quick to write the Z4 off. But it may be just a case of how long you have to wait.

This is so true. Dealers couldn't shift the Z8 when it came out but look at the prices of those now. Personally I think the Sdrive30i has a better chance of becoming a classic then the 35i or 35is due to short production run and the last of the naturally aspirated straight sixes. But to see any gain in value I think the miles would have to be kept low and we will be waiting a very long time.
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Post by Silverstar » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:37 pm

EssexZed wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:10 pm An interesting point made about the 1973 oil crisis hitting sales of the E Type, got me thinking that the E89 was launched just after the start of the global financial melt down (the effects of which has lasted throughout its production lifetime) and what impact this might have had on sales volumes. I looked at the sales figures for the SLK (considered to be its main competitor) and global sales in 2007 were 28,104. By 2009 this had fallen to 13,371. Even when the R172 new model was launched in 2011 sales only rose to 20,949 - some way off the 48,101 they shifted in 2005. Perhaps those who feel the E89 was not as popular based on sales volumes compared to the E85/6 should consider this?
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Post by stijohnny » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:40 pm

Classic cars are just old cars and that's it, just look at the Austin Allegro and Morris Marina - utter sh**e back in their day, but now "Classics".
No BMW is going to be a 250GTO however I absolutely love my e89 and the 35is is the top model so I think you should love yours too. I think the real classic criteria is desirability when the car was new (eg. series 1 e-type) and then some racing heritage always helps (check the ultimate driving machine - 3.0csi).
All the Z4s are desirable and certainly better than anything that British Leyland ever made so enjoy your car, keep on top of servicing and maintenance and one day (should you want to sell), you will be presently surprised at how much some one will pay you for it.

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Post by Huzee4 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:44 pm

stijohnny wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:40 pm Classic cars are just old cars and that's it, just look at the Austin Allegro and Morris Marina - utter sh**e back in their day, but now "Classics".
No BMW is going to be a 250GTO however I absolutely love my e89 and the 35is is the top model so I think you should love yours too. I think the real classic criteria is desirability when the car was new (eg. series 1 e-type) and then some racing heritage always helps (check the ultimate driving machine - 3.0csi).
All the Z4s are desirable and certainly better than anything that British Leyland ever made so enjoy your car, keep on top of servicing and maintenance and one day (should you want to sell), you will be presently surprised at how much some one will pay you for it.
Well said :thumbsup:
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Post by gippo » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:09 pm

hi, im' new here, i bought a 2016 440i last year and feel its a bit bland, have been looking at 35iS's, searched the forum for 'N54 reliability', and oh dear...........it sounds like its not good.
Is it really that bad? Nothing that can't be fixed with a retrofit 'official' mod or something?
should i just forget about swapping and stick with my B58?

i've slightly fallen for the 35iS and could swap mine for one with a few grand to spare, but i care more about reliability......

are the cases of unreliability with the N54 down to poor maintenance or is it just inherently crap?

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