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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by john-e89 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:52 am

Busterboo wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:58 am
john-e89 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:36 am
Busterboo wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:36 pm

Why? :?

It's 1 above BMW's recommended maximum RON, 2 expensive and 3 finding a Shell station can be a nuisance.
The log book for the E89 was written before Shell nitro v power nitro + was produced ...
"Shell V-Power, formerly known as Shell V-Power Nitro+, is the brand name given to Shell's enhanced high specification fuels for road motor vehicles. Shell launched the fuel in March 2008 under the name Nitrogen-Enriched Shell V-Power, with nitrogen-containing detergents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_V-Power

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Will Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel ruin car engines?
Apr 24th, 2013 by John Donovan.
I remember the launch of another wonder fuel by Shell in 1986, “Formula Shell”, based on new technology and with a scientific image deliberately conjured up by Shell. There was only one small problem. The new wonder fuel ruined many car engines and it did so on an international basis.

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By John Donovan

The Telegraph has published an article today under the headline: Can Shell’s new ‘Formula 1’ petrol ease anger at pumps?

It asks: Is Shell’s new petrol – Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel – as good as the fuel used in Formula 1 cars?

Extract

David Moss, the chief executive of Shell UK who was in Battersea to launch the fuel with Ferrari, accepted that petrol prices are “not cheap” but he insisted his company is not to blame. “If you take out the duties and taxes that customers pay in the UK, the fuel prices are some of the most competitive in Europe,” he said. “It is a very, very competitive market place and Shell has to be competitively placed.” He denies charges that Shell and others are profiteering from a captured UK market.

Mr Moss says the new fuel, whose engine cleaning agent is 25pc better than the old V-Power, is part of the effort to attract customers.

2013, if I’m not mistaken the 35is was well into production at this time.

You still haven’t answered my point about BMW not letting customers use 99 Ron in the 35is either. :)
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Post by Busterboo » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:30 am

The label inside the fuel flap of my 35iS says,

"Unleaded Petrol Only
ROZ/RON 95
(ROZ/RON 95-98)
".

Shell V-Power is 99.

I rest my case. :)
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Post by john-e89 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:51 pm

[quote=Busterboo post_id=1475635 time=1507977055 user_id=23823]
The label inside the fuel flap of my 35iS says,

"Unleaded Petrol Only
ROZ/RON 95
(ROZ/RON 95-98)
".

Shell V-Power is 99.

I rest my case. :)
You don’t have a ‘case’. You know full well you can use 99 Ron in the 35is, you just don’t have the maturity to hold your hands up and admit it. After reading your irrelevant and incorrect drivel I thought maybe I could make quite a few quid by trawling around the scrap yards up and down the country stripping bits off knackered 35is engines from using 99 Ron, even though BMW haven’t said it’s unsafe, they’re even a Shell partnership now, but you know what? Every scrap yard I rang didn’t have a knackered 35is in with a shagged engine from using the ‘wrong fuel’, any idea why? Yes, that’s right, because there aren’t any. But whatever, as usual, you know best.

You can, obviously, use whatever fuel you like in your car. Sunnydays, me, lots of others on this forum in all sorts of Zeds will carry on using 99 Ron for its cleaning and lubricating properties, it’s higher anti knock properties, you don’t have to, its your democratic right to carry on being pedantic.

As I’ve said before, it’s impossible to argue with an idiot, and don’t say I haven’t tried. :)
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Post by sunnydays » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:30 am

Busterboo wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:36 pm
sunnydays wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:49 pm Shell V Power Nitro 99 all the time for the 35is
Why? :?

It's 1 above BMW's recommended maximum RON, 2 expensive and 3 finding a Shell station can be a nuisance.
Hi, as mentioned by other members many benefits including anti knock properties, engine cleaning and lubing. And if you have the car mapped you can take advantage of the higher octane.

1. BMWs maximum ron figure is likely because 99 ron was not around back on release.
2. If you are having issues forking out an extra 5p per litre of fuel perhaps you should consider buying a more economical car?
3. Yes it can be, I have a regular one I go to fuel up.

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Post by Smartbear » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:35 am

As above, what are you scared of Buster? What do you think will happen to your car if you dare to use a superior fuel?
I’d love to know your thoughts!
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Post by Nictrix » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:17 am

Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:35 am As above, what are you scared of Buster? What do you think will happen to your car if you dare to use a superior fuel?
I’d love to know your thoughts!
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Maybe the wheels will crack :lol:
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Post by Busterboo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:14 am

sunnydays wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:30 am
Busterboo wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:36 pm
sunnydays wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:49 pm Shell V Power Nitro 99 all the time for the 35is
Why? :?

It's 1 above BMW's recommended maximum RON, 2 expensive and 3 finding a Shell station can be a nuisance.
Hi, as mentioned by other members many benefits including anti knock properties, engine cleaning and lubing. And if you have the car mapped you can take advantage of the higher octane.

1. BMWs maximum ron figure is likely because 99 ron was not around back on release.
2. If you are having issues forking out an extra 5p per litre of fuel perhaps you should consider buying a more economical car?
3. Yes it can be, I have a regular one I go to fuel up.
1. Shell introduced a version of V-Power in the States & Canada in 2004 and in the UK in 2008/9, well before BMW recommended E89 RON figures.
2. I just don't spend money on premium-priced fuel that BMW doesn't recommend.
3. I put V-Power in my 911 for 5 years and, like you, used a regular petrol station. However, in 40,000 miles drivng around the UK, I also discovered that finding Shell stations elsewhere can be a nuisance.

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Post by Busterboo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:18 am

Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:35 am As above, what are you scared of Buster? What do you think will happen to your car if you dare to use a superior fuel?
I’d love to know your thoughts!
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I don't know, which is why I follow BMW's recommendations. :D
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Post by Busterboo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:20 am

Nictrix wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:17 am
Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:35 am As above, what are you scared of Buster? What do you think will happen to your car if you dare to use a superior fuel?
I’d love to know your thoughts!
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Maybe the wheels will crack :lol:
Nah, they're not 19s on liquorice strips. :wink:
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Post by Smartbear » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:35 am

Busterboo wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:20 am
Nictrix wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:17 am
Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:35 am As above, what are you scared of Buster? What do you think will happen to your car if you dare to use a superior fuel?
I’d love to know your thoughts!
Rob
Maybe the wheels will crack :lol:
Nah, they're not 19s on liquorice strips. :wink:
But bmw recommend 19” wheels on liquorice strip tyres! Surely you can’t go against a bmw recommendation? :wink:
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Post by john-e89 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:41 am

Busterboo wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:18 am
Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:35 am As above, what are you scared of Buster? What do you think will happen to your car if you dare to use a superior fuel?
I’d love to know your thoughts!
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I don't know, which is why I follow BMW's recommendations. :D
You pulled Sunnydays up on Shell nitro, not V power.

How many other vehicle manufacturers DON’T recommend a new fuel that comes out midway through a production run on a car? All of them. Why? Why would they? The fuel is an advanced development that is an IMPROVEMEMT, as I’ve said the car manufacturers are not going to change fuel filler cap stickers, and handbooks to outline the development of every new product that comes onto the market, unless these products cause damage why would the manufacturers bother to spend lots and lots of money on PR to tell customers that it’s ok to use them, I would suggest they leave that to the general public to use common sense that the product is perfectly ok to use, since they aren’t told not to on any certain vehicle, and therein is why I’d suggest you don’t use an improvement, one needs common sense. :)
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Post by Busterboo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:00 pm

john-e89 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:41 am
Busterboo wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:18 am
Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:35 am As above, what are you scared of Buster? What do you think will happen to your car if you dare to use a superior fuel?
I’d love to know your thoughts!
Rob
I don't know, which is why I follow BMW's recommendations. :D
You pulled Sunnydays up on Shell nitro, not V power.
They're the same thing, just different names. 99RON with a 'nitrogen-based cleaning component'.
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Post by Busterboo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:02 pm

Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:35 am
Busterboo wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:20 am
Nictrix wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:17 am

Maybe the wheels will crack :lol:
Nah, they're not 19s on liquorice strips. :wink:
But bmw recommend 19” wheels on liquorice strip tyres! Surely you can’t go against a bmw recommendation? :wink:
Rob
Argh! You're right! :D
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Post by john-e89 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:23 pm

Busterboo wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:00 pm
john-e89 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:41 am
Busterboo wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:18 am

I don't know, which is why I follow BMW's recommendations. :D
You pulled Sunnydays up on Shell nitro, not V power.
They're the same thing, just different names. 99RON with a 'nitrogen-based cleaning component'.
If you know so much about it you’ll know, like everyone else does, it’s ok to use in a 35is then, so why pull Sunny up on it in the first place?

You’re either an attention seeker or really this stupid, I don’t know which, but it’s one or the other. Either way it’s empathy you need, as neither is your fault. :)
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Post by mcbutler » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:32 pm

Mr Tidy wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:39 am Wrong combustible it seems, but some years ago I was working as a commercial property loss adjuster and went to a site that made a certain hair-spray (think of Roger Clark)!

To keep the environmentalists happy they had to change their propellant to LPG - but when it went wrong it "blew the bloody walls off"!

But we can't emit CO2 now can we? :rofl:
I emit tonnes of CO2, and a lot of methane as well arf arf parp....
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