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Are the 35i prices coming down

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by john-e89 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:00 pm

pvr wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:27 pm
huytonman wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:43 pm
gerryp wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:42 pm Is manual not a good thing and 77k isn't big for 8 years.
I have to agree that Manual is a positive for enthusiasts, Z4's have quite a following with people who just like the idea of driving with the top down in a flashy looking two seater however and having an easy life which is where DCT's come in. As for the miles, you are right but in this country we seem obsessed by fear of "high" miles, hit 100k and you wont be able to give it away, things so wear out with higher miles but low miles brings its own problems too, at this price it seems like worth a punt.
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Re the miles - the only issue is if you want warranty. The warranty companies deduct huge percentages for any mile over 65k. When my first X5 reached 65k, it was 5 years and the year % as well as the mileage one meant that I was only ever going to be covered for 40% of the cost, and that excluded the fixed cost deductable as well.
That’s true if you’re an enthusiast and know the particular model well though Paul. I agree with Keith, rightly or wrongly there is an invisible wall at 100k that broken through cars are pretty much worthless, it really narrows your market down if you’re selling.
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:27 pm

I remember when my Z4MC reached 80k and BMW emailed me a quote to continue warranty..

Just £3200 a year..

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Post by pvr » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:04 pm

At least I got two years with Porsche for that amount :D
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Post by mcbutler » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:46 pm

Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:14 pm
sunnydays wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:07 pm
pvr wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:14 pm

An E85/E86 was more expensive with an automatic, but worth less second hand.
Was unaware of this, probably due to the difference between old automatic transmissions and new dct autos that surpass manual performance?
I suspect it’s got more to do with the driving satisfaction of manual gear changes rather than the actual speed of the auto’s cog changing?
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Well said, DRIVE the car dont let a robot with flappy ears do it for you. Specs I have read quote DCT cars as slightly slower on acceleration also!!
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Post by willgill » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:36 am

Yeah I agree, all new sports cars using this dual clutch technology are clearly just a fad.... :poke:
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Post by R.E92 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:46 pm

mcbutler wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:46 pm
Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:14 pm
sunnydays wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:07 pm

Was unaware of this, probably due to the difference between old automatic transmissions and new dct autos that surpass manual performance?
I suspect it’s got more to do with the driving satisfaction of manual gear changes rather than the actual speed of the auto’s cog changing?
Rob
Well said, DRIVE the car dont let a robot with flappy ears do it for you. Specs I have read quote DCT cars as slightly slower on acceleration also!!
The DCT is way ahead of the manual for acceleration. Not sure what specs you found but they are wrong :)

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Post by tomscott » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:37 pm

Like I wrote on the Which E89 thread.

The gear box opinion is an interesting one. From driving both the DCT just seems perfect for these turbo cars. The manual is perfectly fine too but it doesn't feel to me like a particularly great instrument its not really that engaging or enjoyable its just a manual it does the job but isnt something I would call a fantastic must have gearbox, on the other hand you can feel in complete control all the time. The DCT on the other hand is probably one of the best BMW has ever made and although a manual would be my preferred the DCT is just too good to miss on these cars I think.

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Post by mcbutler » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:29 am

R.E92 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:46 pm
mcbutler wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:46 pm
Smartbear wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:14 pm

I suspect it’s got more to do with the driving satisfaction of manual gear changes rather than the actual speed of the auto’s cog changing?
Rob
Well said, DRIVE the car dont let a robot with flappy ears do it for you. Specs I have read quote DCT cars as slightly slower on acceleration also!!
The DCT is way ahead of the manual for acceleration. Not sure what specs you found but they are wrong :)
A couple of examples then, not from BMW of course, they want you to spend your cash on the more expensive box.
If we went through the whole list of models you will probably find examples both sides of the fence, but a faster car, driver connection and for less cash and way lower repair costs when the auto dies, manual for me. I have had hi tech autos on an M3 and C63, they are certainly good but not manual boxes.

3.0i
http://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/z4/roadste ... uto/specs/
versus
http://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/z4/roadste ... uto/specs/

3.0i Msport
http://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/z4/roadste ... uto/specs/
versus
http://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/z4/roadste ... uto/specs/
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Post by Nictrix » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:18 pm

mcbutler wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:29 am
R.E92 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:46 pm
mcbutler wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:46 pm
Well said, DRIVE the car dont let a robot with flappy ears do it for you. Specs I have read quote DCT cars as slightly slower on acceleration also!!
The DCT is way ahead of the manual for acceleration. Not sure what specs you found but they are wrong :)
A couple of examples then, not from BMW of course, they want you to spend your cash on the more expensive box.
If we went through the whole list of models you will probably find examples both sides of the fence, but a faster car, driver connection and for less cash and way lower repair costs when the auto dies, manual for me. I have had hi tech autos on an M3 and C63, they are certainly good but not manual boxes.

3.0i
http://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/z4/roadste ... uto/specs/
versus
http://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/z4/roadste ... uto/specs/

3.0i Msport
http://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/z4/roadste ... uto/specs/
versus
http://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/z4/roadste ... uto/specs/
Unless I am wrong you seem to be providing evidence of an N/A 3.0 Litre which I think comes with a normal auto box and not DCT.
Someone else will possibly confirm and advise if there is a difference.

Edit. Just looked on Parkers where you got the 3.0 litre info and for the 35i, the DCT box is 4.9 seconds where the manual is 5.0 seconds
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Post by Kugaman1 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:02 pm

My only concern about the DCT is ££££££ if there’s a problem once the warranty runs out :|

That, the roof and adaptive suspension :cry: I could never own a car that I’m terrified of going wrong outside of warranty......

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Post by Philly_Sweden » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:46 am

Kugaman1 wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:02 pm My only concern about the DCT is ££££££ if there’s a problem once the warranty runs out :|

That, the roof and adaptive suspension :cry: I could never own a car that I’m terrified of going wrong outside of warranty......
Are you a worried soul? :)

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Post by Kugaman1 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:49 am

Not at all, I’m just a tight Yorkshireman married to a Scottish lass, so we don’t like spending !

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Post by Z4M-2006 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:22 am

The DCT is pretty reliable

Remember it's just a manual with automated gearchange.. Quite a few up around the 100k mark with no issues..

It's like anycar, if you buy the highest spec model with all the gadgets then potential to go wrong is amplified..

But where do you stop?

Don't but a 35i because of turbo issues etc etc..
Don't buy the 3.0 because of injector and cylinder head issues ..

You get what I mean, there is a reason not to buy every model...

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Post by Philly_Sweden » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:36 pm

Kugaman1 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:49 am Not at all, I’m just a tight Yorkshireman married to a Scottish lass, so we don’t like spending !
Today I wanted to go outside and enjoy the sun but then, what if an airplane hits me? Better to stay inside.
I then got thirsty and wanted a glass of water, but what if was poisoned? :O better to stay thirsty ;)

Just kidding mate but don't worry so much. Anything can happen.....or nothing?

I have owned maaaany cars and NOTHING has ever happened to any of them. Including many expensive M models incuding the V10 that "breaks all the time" lol :poke: knock on wood.

Have a nice day :)

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