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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Northotheborder » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:53 pm

Hi folks
Im currently running Pirelli Pzero's (not runflats) on my 23i (225/35/19 F + 255/30/19 R), they have done about 12,000 miles in 3 years and looking at the rears I will need to look for some new ones in the next couple of months. The Pirelli's in my opinion have been good and the car really grips the road, so Im now looking to buy a new set of tyres and wondered whether there are any other brands to consider (Bridgestone, Dunlop, Goodyear, Continental etc) and any good/bad experiences?

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Post by Nictrix » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:22 pm

We have the same car but on 18" and have had Goodyears on for about 3 1/2 years and I think they have covered just under 20,000 miles.
They will be getting changed in the next couple of months as they are getting close to the limit.
Will just get the same again or the Assymetric 3 as we have had no problems with them.
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Post by Northotheborder » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:49 pm

Thanks for that, Ive been looking at the Goodyear Eagle F1's they seem to have a higher wet grip rating than the Pirelli's (need that in Scotland!!) and 20,000 miles is a lot better than 12,000!.

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Post by huytonman » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:15 pm

Michelin PS4's (or the updated version if you want to spend more money), very popular RFT replacement on here, fitted mine a few months ago to my 35iS and the improvement is profound.
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Post by Busterboo » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:18 am

Coincidentally, like Northotheborder, I've done 12,000 miles on Pirelli P Zeros (but in less than one year). I've just measured the rears and they're both 5mm, +/- 0.5mm. So, for me, I think 20,000 miles will be a reasonable expectation.

(I run mine at BMW's figures for a 35is of 36psi front & 44psi rear and wonder if Northotheborder's haven't lasted long because of lower pressures.)

My driving is a mixture of shopping, shooting and all the way round the rev counter on A and B roads.

The Pirellis have proved to be excellent, were £453 the set, fitted - they're 18" - and I'd buy them again without hesitation.

That said, it may not be possible to buy the same P Zeros again, because it seems to be Pirelli's habit to keep the same model name, but to change the tread design at least yearly. Italians ... kuh.
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Post by Northotheborder » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:22 pm

Thanks Keith for the response Ill add the Michelin's to the potential list.

Hi Buster with regards to tyre pressures Ive been running mine on the same pressures as the equivalent runflats for the 23i (as per the door sticker). I check tyre pressure every two weeks and the car has very light use. Probably a more realistic figure of 14,000 miles on these tyres eventually (the rears will need replacing before the fronts), maybe its my driving :| .

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Post by lordgrover » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:42 pm

Just switched from GYE F1 Assy3 to Avon ZZ5.
Previous owner had the GY fitted so don't know what they were like when new, and as I've replaced because they were worn out I can't really compare. But... these Avons are so much better than worn out GYs. I think they must have softer sidewalls too as the ride is noticeably softer, as well as great grip in wet and dry.

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Post by Busterboo » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:04 pm

Northotheborder wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:22 pm Thanks Keith for the response Ill add the Michelin's to the potential list.

Hi Buster with regards to tyre pressures Ive been running mine on the same pressures as the equivalent runflats for the 23i (as per the door sticker). I check tyre pressure every two weeks and the car has very light use. Probably a more realistic figure of 14,000 miles on these tyres eventually (the rears will need replacing before the fronts), maybe its my driving :| .
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Post by R.E92 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:11 pm

If you want the best grip on offer then go for the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.

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Post by Rathean » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:26 pm

So what do you all use when you get a puncture??

I've been on the run flats since buying it, I quite enjoy the ride but almost everyone has advised changing to non RFs...

The can of squirty puncture repair stuff never worked with my last car.
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Post by huytonman » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:36 pm

Rathean wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:26 pm So what do you all use when you get a puncture??

I've been on the run flats since buying it, I quite enjoy the ride but almost everyone has advised changing to non RFs...

The can of squirty puncture repair stuff never worked with my last car.
Buy a bottle of AirMan 65-005-011 ATVT HB Tyre Repair Sealant 450 ml, available on Amazon - this is the same stuff used by the likes of Mercedes. You will need a portable compressor, can pick them up new for around a tenner, I bought the AA Tyre Inflator again from Amazon. Total cost of the kit <£35. Very simple process to use, screw the inflator into one of the sockets on the airman bottle, the bottle then connects to the tyre valve and you inflate to normal pressure, this blows the sealant into the tyre, then its a case of driving slowly to help the sealant fill the hole and that it. Thats all you need really but a puncture repair kit may be a reassurance if you can be bothered carrying a jack and socket with a breaker bar (if the sealant wont fix the hole its doubtful that a rubber plug will though so I dont bother with the repair kit). If you had a catastrophic tyre failure beyond the realms of the sealant then it would be a recovery job - you can weigh up the probability of that happening vs the benefits of dumping the RFT's.
Incidentally I checked over the wifes CooperS today and noted one tyre was down to 3.6mm (with winter coming thats getting low on tread for a front wheel drive car in my book), I always thought they were RFT's like in her previous mini's but couldnt find the RFT logo on the tyres so check under the boot floor and there is a bottle of sealant and an inflator..good enough for mini who have obviously seen the light about RFT's.
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Post by Baza » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:41 pm

I replaced My tyres from Vredestein Ultrac Vortis to Michelin PS 4 in October last year. The difference is slightly in the favour of the PS 4's but I found not a lot to choose from both are extremely good tyres. If you want to save a few pennies then have a look at Vredestein 's .Would also be interested to hear what puncture repair works . Has anyone actual first hand positive experience if so what did you use.
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Post by Baza » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:44 pm

huytonman wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:36 pmBuy a bottle of AirMan 65-005-011 ATVT HB Tyre Repair Sealant 450 ml, available on Amazon
Thanks huytonman you must have posted just as I was typing. Anyone else out there with a view based on experience.
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Post by JimsZ » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:47 pm

Recent convert from 19" Bridgestone RFT`s to new rims and GYE F1 Assy3 non run flats.

All I can add or say is why did I leave it so long, performance wise so far a much more impressive ride and the handling doesnt seem so "on edge" when makning progress through some sweeping a and b roads, actuallly feels much more "planted".

They get a thumbs up from me :thumbsup:
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Post by mcbutler » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:23 pm

Michelin pilot sport 4 are amazing. Best wet grip tyre, reviews speak for themselves. They are very quiet and are a new polymer compound, soft but hard wearing... Buy at ASDA tyres for local fitting, pay the fitter on the day.
CArry a slime repair kit, comes with a compressor, you will be fine.
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