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Considering Selling 35is, what is it worth?

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by Busterboo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:52 pm

ibroker wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:55 pm I had a V10 Spyder last year. I only kept it 4 months, it was a sterile experience. I have had a lot of cars and to be honest the R8 was one of the most boring i have owned. The 4.2 is not that quick. I had my 35is at the same time and my wife could never believe i always wanted to take the Z if we went out.

Super expensive to run.

Dont do it....
sunnydays, you won't get better advice than this.

(And ibroker's was a V10 Spyder!)

Just don't go there.
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Post by markalp » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:22 pm

Instead of the R8... and as you have cash to spend.. and as I have never seen one on the road... you should pamper your 35is with new clothes..
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Post by Kugaman1 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:36 pm

Wow, that is stunning.

The z4 is a great looking car already and generally, I prefer to see them unmolested.....but that...wow.

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Post by sunnydays » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:45 pm

Thanks for the input everyone, so as an update I have been to see an R8 and was left underwhelmed. Came back home to read this thread which pretty much predicted that hah! It is a shame but anyhow there is plenty of choice, it just was not quite what I was looking for.

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Post by ibroker » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:41 pm

As guys we get wrapped up in the chase.....we convince ourselves we want something and finding "the deal" becomes a mission.

With cars....Very often wanting something is better than having something. You get it then realise what you had was actually good.

Your drive in the R8 was underwhelming. You have answered your own question.

The 35is really is very good in so many ways...

DONT DO IT!!!!!
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Post by Twin Turbo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:05 pm

Well my personal preference would be with wrap and alloys

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Post by ibroker » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:12 am

Twin Turbo wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:05 pm Well my personal preference would be with wrap and alloys
I agree
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Post by Dav the wheel nut » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:34 am

And me :thumbsup:

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Post by Busterboo » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:18 am

What, sunnydays, doesn't your 35is do that you want?

Mine's better than my 911. (Sharp intake of breath?) The 35is is quicker, steers as well in 'Sport + S', its engine & gearbox are more flexible and the suspension's more practical, by which I mean my wife likes it in 'Normal'. (Steady, lads, steady). The only things I miss from the 911 are the back seat - surprisingly useful - and the AWD drive in bad conditions underfoot.

These things said, I've done 14,000+ miles in the 35is since I bought it 11 months ago and I use it. This doesn't mean I abuse it, but I make it sing. Is it possible, sunnydays, that you haven't done the same yet?
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Post by tomscott » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:44 am

Which 911 are we talking about. Must be an old one to be slower pretty much every car from 997.2 is quicker than 35IS and is far more fun to drive. A 997 Cs used to easily pull away from my Z4Mc.

Find that super hard to understand. A 911 with adaptive suspension is about as good as it gets IMO with "sensible money". Super comfortable cruiser and an impeccable sports car which is beautifully made and the interiors especially with extended leather are stunning. You get better sound systems, better seats, and an equal nav system. The sound is also on another level especially with a sports exhaust.

On the sports car front the E89 doesn't even come close. Weight, power, steering, feel pretty much every category. Then theres the fact its designed as a GT cruiser yet with the roof down would be very difficult to do Grand Tour as the boot is non existent unless you plan on doing the trip with the roof up.

The 997.2 and above is better in every single way, I would argue so is a 997 as long as you could source a car thats mechanically sorted. The only downside is initial cost to purchase. The consumables are more expensive but servicing is about on par if you have a good specialist. As soon as you make the jump its not one I could see anyone making the downgrade for.

Taken a 997 and a 991 round Europe and I dont think there is a better car unless you move into the next category of cost.

For what it is and the cost to purchase the E89 is a great car, it would make a great daily and maybe weekend car, the power is on tap and its a great looking car but lets not get carried away, it is what it is. Essentially 3 series weight with 2 seats, a great engine and a tin top with little boot space. Its not a 911.

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Post by Z4M-2006 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:12 pm

A Carrera 997 C2s has quite a bit more PTW than a 35is so shuld get the better of it,that said they are twice the money if not more on similar year/miles basis..

If comparing to a 996 then the statement doesnt suprise me,they are sh1t...

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Post by tomscott » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:32 pm

Z4M-2006 wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:12 pm A Carrera 997 C2s has quite a bit more PTW than a 35is so shuld get the better of it,that said they are twice the money if not more on similar year/miles basis..

If comparing to a 996 then the statement doesnt suprise me,they are sh1t...
Agree.

True but with the way the porsche world has exploded your money should be fairly safe. Theres only one direction for the E89 even the 35IS They haven't reached their minimum value yet and then there will be the effect the Z5 will have when launched.

Looking after the 35IS isn't cheap motoring either with issues that are starting to come out of the wood work that will only get worce with time. Even just the injectors... I thought nice and easy have them replaced. They have to be swapped in 3s and really if one set is going you might as well do all 6. After getting some information from a specialist it can be more complex than just swapping them out. With them malfunctioning it can affect other areas like NO2 sensors, water pump, bent rods etc etc can quickly spiral and the time to work it back to the problem can be time consuming as it would seem the injectors dont always throw codes and depending how long can damage other parts. Without a warranty and without the parts being sorted previously it can quickly eat up a fair chunk of change.

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Post by Z4M-2006 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:48 pm

Thats not strictly true, you can replace injectors in singles as long as you sort the indexing..I have done it twice...

Porsche world is a funny place...

I wouldnt even consider any of the cars whichever model on offer under £40k.... And if i was to spend £40k i wouldnt buy a Porsche..


Residuals seem good as long as you wasnt in at the new end,a 6/7 yr old 911 would see minimal loss if kept for a couple of years. That said,the same could be said of the 35is if bought shrewdly..

A 35is is a complex car,anything with high pressure fuel delivery and 2 turbo's is never going to be 100% reliable...

What car is with 350bhp+...Everything has niggles

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Post by Busterboo » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:19 pm

tomscott wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:44 am Which 911 are we talking about. Must be an old one to be slower pretty much every car from 997.2 is quicker than 35IS ...
I agree, but the 997.1 was just a 996.2 in disguise, but, as we both know well, with a different potential fatal flaw: bore-scoring instead of shaft-bearing failure. That said, neither car was bad.

The 997.2, however, was better. Sadly, their prices are going up. A good acquaintance, who promised to sell me his when he bought it two years ago, can't in all sense sell it now, with 50k miles, for less than £45k, which I think is just too much.

(The 991, which I've also driven quite a lot, is a different car altogether and not only because of the extra 10cm in the wheelbase. It is, however, a lot more expensive.)
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Post by chasBMW » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:35 pm

Z4M-2006 wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:48 pm Thats not strictly true, you can replace injectors in singles as long as you sort the indexing..I have done it twice...

Porsche world is a funny place...

I wouldnt even consider any of the cars whichever model on offer under £40k.... And if i was to spend £40k i wouldnt buy a Porsche..


Residuals seem good as long as you wasnt in at the new end,a 6/7 yr old 911 would see minimal loss if kept for a couple of years. That said,the same could be said of the 35is if bought shrewdly..

A 35is is a complex car,anything with high pressure fuel delivery and 2 turbo's is never going to be 100% reliable...

What car is with 350bhp+...Everything has niggles
Funny thing this when I said I was buying a porsche quite few people said oooh their dodgy but I have owned 2 E89's and I thought they were brilliant however one suffered handbrake failure the other roof failure whereas the porsche celebrated its second birthday in september and apart from a service hasnt been back to dealer at all
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