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which one to go for now ? 2.8 , 3.0 or 35i E89

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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which one to go for now ? 2.8 , 3.0 or 35i E89

Post by sunnydays » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:03 pm

Player 1 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:25 pm
sunnydays wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:03 pm Edit: just read above power is a big thing for you, How much is enough power. A tuned 35i should make 400 bhp off a map alone. 450ish with a few bolt ons
Are you sure? Having spoken with Evolve, they set 35i's at 360bhp with just a remap to play on the safe side of longevity. At least 400bhp would be their target with an improved intercooler and catless downpipes.
Yeah, look at some of MHD ots maps for example. Stage 1+ puts you at 390bhp on the right octane fuel. Obviously watch your IATs. These OTS maps are relatively conservative aswell.

Head over to the e90 forum n54 section, plenty of people hitting 400whp with a tune, dps and intercooler. Upgraded charge pipe, fresh coils and sparks usually too

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Post by sunnydays » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:07 pm

Twin Turbo wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:35 pm
Player 1 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:20 pm I went 35i and unless fuel economy was a concern I wouldn't even contemplate the others after owning one.
Touch wood, mine's been perfectly reliable so can't really offer advice on what might be common faults.

The 35i's have quite a gruff, clearly straight six exhaust note which I like, I'm sure a bit of tweaking would allow for a rather sweet sound!
I don't really see the point in comparing a modified four pot car with a standard 35i as if you modified a 35i to the same extent you'd be at a different performance bracket again. :poke:
:rofl: true

But then you have a new problem with a modified 35i is getting the power down
A good set of tyres does wonders.....
I have seen a stage 1+ 35is hit 4.1 to 60 and 9.8 to 100 with MPS4S tyres
Player 1 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:45 pm
Twin Turbo wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:35 pm But then you have a new problem with a modified 35i is getting the power down
35i's can't get the power down with 300hp, let alone 400 :rofl:
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Post by arl10 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:11 pm

Not really bothered about mpg, main thing is getting the power down and getting the wooly feeling reduced. No one has mentioned about the 2.0 are they that bad?

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Post by Nictrix » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:12 pm

arl10 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:24 am
X5M next on the list .
Are you sure you want a Z4 at all?
With an X5 next on your list you probably couldnt get further away from a Z if you tried.
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Post by Twin Turbo » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:28 pm

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A good set of tyres does wonders.....
I have seen a stage 1+ 35is hit 4.1 to 60 and 9.8 to 100 with MPS4S tyres

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Please don't post porn like this, you making me think twice now about my next car - with an curveball like that :D

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Post by Player 1 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:37 pm

sunnydays wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:03 pm Yeah, look at some of MHD ots maps for example. Stage 1+ puts you at 390bhp on the right octane fuel. Obviously watch your IATs. These OTS maps are relatively conservative aswell.

Head over to the e90 forum n54 section, plenty of people hitting 400whp with a tune, dps and intercooler. Upgraded charge pipe, fresh coils and sparks usually too
Good stuff! I'll be sure to take a look over there :thumbsup:

Regarding tyres, I was planning on going for Pilot Sport 4's once the current P Zero's have worn out, I suspect the Pirelli's being run flat's is causing most of the issues there

Anyway, this is thread jacking, get a 35i OP :D
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Post by Smartbear » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:44 pm

arl10 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:11 pm Not really bothered about mpg, main thing is getting the power down and getting the wooly feeling reduced. No one has mentioned about the 2.0 are they that bad?
Bad at what?
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Post by Smartbear » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:46 pm

Player 1 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:44 pm
Smartbear wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:26 pm Except for the handling, the additional 100kg over the front wheels takes away from the agility/turn in etc :wink:
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But it isn't a sports car? I went into it looking for more of a gt after the E85 and I'd have gotten a Cayman if handling was what I was after. Maybe that'll be the next thing to have but for now I'm more than happy to lean back, turn on the heated seats and eat up the miles :)
You don’t necessarily need to have a sports car to appreciate better handling :poke:
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Post by Kugaman1 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:18 pm

Ive got the 20i. Delighted with it.
I don't get hung up on the power. Ive owned an RS3, S3 and M135i, all pretty nippy cars. Dont miss their 300bhp+ at all. There are way too many cameras around up here so its just not worth having a rapid car anymore. Far too easy to get points on the licence when you have a rapid car.....it simply makes you drive quicker and dont say it doesnt! Unfortunately the authorities have won, Ive settled on less power - b@stards!!

The 20i is more than quick enough in daily driving and easily does 40mpg on a run.

.....just adding a little bit of balance from the 20i guys!

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Post by Player 1 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:32 pm

Smartbear wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:46 pm
Player 1 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:44 pm
Smartbear wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:26 pm Except for the handling, the additional 100kg over the front wheels takes away from the agility/turn in etc :wink:
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But it isn't a sports car? I went into it looking for more of a gt after the E85 and I'd have gotten a Cayman if handling was what I was after. Maybe that'll be the next thing to have but for now I'm more than happy to lean back, turn on the heated seats and eat up the miles :)
You don’t necessarily need to have a sports car to appreciate better handling :poke:
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Regarding the extra weight, out of interest I stuck the 35i (roof up) on the weighbridge we use for loading up tractor/trailers with grain. It came out at 1530kg with 750kg on the front axle and 780kg on the rear axle, it's nothing especially scientific as it goes up in 10kg jumps but as a rough guide shows there's a good weight balance in the car.

Whilst it might lose out a bit then in turn in to the lighter cars, that balance *should* still make it relatively sweet, should it not?

Either way, no E89's handling is ever showered with praise so I'm not going to be losing any sleep over it :wink:
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Post by Smartbear » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:41 pm

Player 1 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:32 pm
Smartbear wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:46 pm
Player 1 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:44 pm

But it isn't a sports car? I went into it looking for more of a gt after the E85 and I'd have gotten a Cayman if handling was what I was after. Maybe that'll be the next thing to have but for now I'm more than happy to lean back, turn on the heated seats and eat up the miles :)
You don’t necessarily need to have a sports car to appreciate better handling :poke:
Rob
Regarding the extra weight, out of interest I stuck the 35i (roof up) on the weighbridge we use for loading up tractor/trailers with grain. It came out at 1530kg with 750kg on the front axle and 780kg on the rear axle, it's nothing especially scientific as it goes up in 10kg jumps but as a rough guide shows there's a good weight balance in the car.

Whilst it might lose out a bit then in turn in to the lighter cars, that balance *should* still make it relatively sweet, should it not?

Either way, no E89's handling is ever showered with praise so I'm not going to be losing any sleep over it :wink:
Rather than concentrating on the extra weight just as a number, it’s more important where the weight is placed.
The longer 6 pot engine places additional weight in advance of the front axle which isn’t good, mass centralisation improves handling :thumbsup:
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Post by arl10 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:24 pm

Hi already have an X5 so natural progression X5M although I have tried a 50d and they are amazing , the Z4 will be a daily driver just want some fun the X5 is for load lugging .

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Post by Twin Turbo » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:54 pm

arl10 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:24 pm Hi already have an X5 so natural progression X5M although I have tried a 50d and they are amazing , the Z4 will be a daily driver just want some fun the X5 is for load lugging .
An X5M - are very capable cars - I had one behind me and could not believe it was keeping up with me. I was gaining distance through corners and braking, but on the straights, it was gaining ground.

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Post by sunnydays » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:50 pm

Twin Turbo wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:54 pm
arl10 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:24 pm Hi already have an X5 so natural progression X5M although I have tried a 50d and they are amazing , the Z4 will be a daily driver just want some fun the X5 is for load lugging .
An X5M - are very capable cars - I had one behind me and could not believe it was keeping up with me. I was gaining distance through corners and braking, but on the straights, it was gaining ground.
Its okay, just wait for the x5 to brake fade or for it to run out of fuel. Which ever comes first and you will be gone :)

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Post by Nictrix » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:04 pm

sunnydays wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:50 pm
Twin Turbo wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:54 pm
arl10 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:24 pm Hi already have an X5 so natural progression X5M although I have tried a 50d and they are amazing , the Z4 will be a daily driver just want some fun the X5 is for load lugging .
An X5M - are very capable cars - I had one behind me and could not believe it was keeping up with me. I was gaining distance through corners and braking, but on the straights, it was gaining ground.
Its okay, just wait for the x5 to brake fade or for it to run out of fuel. Which ever comes first and you will be gone :)
Not an X5M but I have an X6 40D and can get over 600 miles out a tank. I think the Z would run out first. :lol:
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