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E85 to E89 which engine + Best standard options??

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by henryjames » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:41 am

Hi Guys,
Currently have an 05 E85 and realised it's time to upgrade to the E89
I have around £15K to spend and am thinking of the e89 28i as it seems to
Be the win win of best performance and best consumption versus the 18i and 20i

Was wondering what options you think are worth it?
I've heard all sorts of stuff on Bluetooth sound etc and some models having it some not etc, something about a combox?
Any advice? Is the 20i enough - seems a shame not to go for the 28i for increased performance
For no fuel usage increas?

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Post by Ducklakeview » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:46 am

£15k puts you firmly into 35i territory...

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Post by ronk » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:51 am

henryjames wrote:Hi Guys,
Currently have an 05 E85 and realised it's time to upgrade to the E89
I have around £15K to spend and am thinking of the e89 28i as it seems to
Be the win win of best performance and best consumption versus the 18i and 20i

Was wondering what options you think are worth it?
I've heard all sorts of stuff on Bluetooth sound etc and some models having it some not etc, something about a combox?
Any advice? Is the 20i enough - seems a shame not to go for the 28i for increased performance
For no fuel usage increas?
It has to be a 3.0l six - bias declared at this point! :D
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So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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Post by Smartbear » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:02 am

28i outperforms the 3litre six & gets better mpg and cheaper tax, they're pretty strong reasons for getting one.
Or you could get a 20i or the 18i and just get them remapped, they're identical engines & turbos & you should get a younger car for your money :thumbsup:
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Post by Marlon » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:05 am

£15k gives you lots of options - a newer lower mileage 28i, or an older higher mileage 35i. So then its down to what your priorities are: better mpg, tax or more power and acceleration (I know which I'd go for :evil: ) :)
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Post by ronk » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:33 am

Smartbear wrote:28i outperforms the 3litre six & gets better mpg and cheaper tax, they're pretty strong reasons for getting one.
Or you could get a 20i or the 18i and just get them remapped, they're identical engines & turbos & you should get a younger car for your money :thumbsup:
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Im sure you're right but the smaller fours have to work harder for their living?
Is the "real world" fuel consumption that signifiicant ? Overall - Mid 30's from my last 3.0l - I've never owned a 2.0 four so I can't compare.

Performance differences aside, I do appreciate the relaxed drive of a six and the available of torque from low rpm without waiting for a turbo to spool up.
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Post by Smartbear » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:43 am

ronk wrote:
Smartbear wrote:28i outperforms the 3litre six & gets better mpg and cheaper tax, they're pretty strong reasons for getting one.
Or you could get a 20i or the 18i and just get them remapped, they're identical engines & turbos & you should get a younger car for your money :thumbsup:
Rob
Im sure you're right but the smaller fours have to work harder for their living?
Is the "real world" fuel consumption that signifiicant ? Overall - Mid 30's from my last 3.0l - I've never owned a 2.0 four so I can't compare.

Performance differences aside, I do appreciate the relaxed drive of a six and the available of torque from low rpm without waiting for a turbo to spool up.
Look at some dyno graphs, the 2 litre 28i produces more torque at much lower rpm than the normally aspirated 3 litre ronk, the twin scroll turbo doesn't need to spool up :wink:
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Post by Smartbear » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:50 am

Check out page ten, bmw's own results
http://www.bimmerpost.com/goodiesforyou ... ERPOST.pdf
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Post by ronk » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:54 am

I ask as the only 4 cyl 2.0l turbo was an old school Saab way back in 1982
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Post by Smartbear » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:00 am

ronk wrote:I ask as the only 4 cyl 2.0l turbo was an old school Saab way back in 1982
Back then you were right ronk, technology has moved on though and the n20 engines perform very differently.
The straight six engines do sound great, I think the turbo engines sound pretty cool in a different way though.
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Post by Maniac » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:20 am

It's all about the engine, turbo six if you can stretch to it.

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Post by Zed Five » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:13 am

Maniac wrote:It's all about the engine, turbo six if you can stretch to it.

This.
Either way a six. The six cyl engine is smooth and satisfying in a way no 4 is, turbo or not. If you wanted a good 4 cyl car you'd be buying a Focus. :)
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Post by sunnydays » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:57 am

henryjames wrote:Hi Guys,
Currently have an 05 E85 and realised it's time to upgrade to the E89
I have around £15K to spend and am thinking of the e89 28i as it seems to
Be the win win of best performance and best consumption versus the 18i and 20i

Was wondering what options you think are worth it?
I've heard all sorts of stuff on Bluetooth sound etc and some models having it some not etc, something about a combox?
Any advice? Is the 20i enough - seems a shame not to go for the 28i for increased performance
For no fuel usage increas?
Why not a 35I DCT? With in your budget pal....

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Post by Smartbear » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:03 am

sunnydays wrote:
henryjames wrote:Hi Guys,
Currently have an 05 E85 and realised it's time to upgrade to the E89
I have around £15K to spend and am thinking of the e89 28i as it seems to
Be the win win of best performance and best consumption versus the 18i and 20i

Was wondering what options you think are worth it?
I've heard all sorts of stuff on Bluetooth sound etc and some models having it some not etc, something about a combox?
Any advice? Is the 20i enough - seems a shame not to go for the 28i for increased performance
For no fuel usage increas?
Why not a 35I DCT? With in your budget pal....
Cheaper to run & a newer car for your money are serious considerations :thumbsup:
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e89 Sdrive 20i, plenty of mumbo & good economy-the thinking bears z4
e89 Sdrive 30i, this ones busted, pass me another...
e85 3.0si sold

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Post by firebobby » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:20 am

It all depends what you want from the car, is it a daily where better fuel economy is a factor and your happy pottering around in a four pot. Or is it a high days car that the fun factor is more important. My E85 3.0 will return low 40mpg on a run and i'm sure the larger engined E89 can sup fuel too. Your choiceI, but I know what I would go for :thumbsup:
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