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Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by john-e89 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:54 pm

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Post by slick » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:08 pm

It doesn't matter how rare it is .........a turd is still a turd.......happy polishing :lol:
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Post by slick » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:10 pm

I hope to f*ck I dont type my 2000th post in this thread :?
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Post by Valor1 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 am

MACK wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:36 pm OP have you considered if yours is truly rare its because the original owner picked all the wrong colours/options!
Yes, you're right. The car that is at the top of this page....must be wrong color as it is same config as mine. Oh, and I guess the press car used chosen by BMW was the wrong color as well. Lord knows you wouldn't want a "resale red" sports car with a twin turbo six and a manual gearbox.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/05/12/luxis ... sdrive35i/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBjmtiInYk

http://jalopnik.com/5243469/2009-bmw-z4-first-drive

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12754/4317247/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmwIw90HNY

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Post by GuidoK » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:32 am

Valor1 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 am Oh, and I guess the press car used chosen by BMW was the wrong color as well. Lord knows you wouldn't want a "resale red" sports car with a twin turbo six and a manual gearbox.
well in all fairness, the e89 didnt sell very well, its by far the worst selling in the lineage z3/e85z4/e89z4, and it sold exceptionally bad in the US compared to the previous models.
We were a bit reluctant to say it, but yes, thats completely due to that crimson red presscar, causing plummeting sales and bmw almost scrapping the Z model alltogehter.
So there you have it, the car you own is solely responsible that we now have to wait 3 years on a successor, thats part a toyota and will be build in a factory of an austrian subcontractor, not even a proper bmw factory.... :poke:
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Post by Crazy Harry » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:16 am

Still just don't understand what all the fuss is about - stand by my comment 18 days and 8 pages ago :lol:

I haven't the personality to drive a red car and I'd be too worried about it turning pink due to UV over time. Light coloured interior - no couldn't keep it clean in my world. Still really pleased for you and glad you got the info but a real shame its not an E85. Sorry boys but in my book a roadster has a cloth top :poke:

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Post by MACK » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:54 am

Valor1 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 am
MACK wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:36 pm OP have you considered if yours is truly rare its because the original owner picked all the wrong colours/options!
Yes, you're right. The car that is at the top of this page....must be wrong color as it is same config as mine. Oh, and I guess the press car used chosen by BMW was the wrong color as well. Lord knows you wouldn't want a "resale red" sports car with a twin turbo six and a manual gearbox.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/05/12/luxis ... sdrive35i/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBjmtiInYk

http://jalopnik.com/5243469/2009-bmw-z4-first-drive

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12754/4317247/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmwIw90HNY
The car at the top of the page?.... :tumbleweed: oh you mean the graphic. NEWSFLASH it's not real! :rofl: As Guidok said. Poor selling unpopular vehicle in your market inparticular. Couple that with unpopular colour and the wrong options and of course you make it rare. But that certainly doesn't equal desirable or sort after, either now or in the future. As for all those links you posted. Seriously you don't actually think anyone will bother to look at them. In case you hadn't noticed you seem to have bored the pants off everyone already judging by the posts on this thread. Now you want to compound the misery!
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Post by sunnydays » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:25 am

Valor1 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 am
MACK wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:36 pm OP have you considered if yours is truly rare its because the original owner picked all the wrong colours/options!
Yes, you're right. The car that is at the top of this page....must be wrong color as it is same config as mine. Oh, and I guess the press car used chosen by BMW was the wrong color as well. Lord knows you wouldn't want a "resale red" sports car with a twin turbo six and a manual gearbox.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/05/12/luxis ... sdrive35i/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBjmtiInYk

http://jalopnik.com/5243469/2009-bmw-z4-first-drive

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12754/4317247/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmwIw90HNY
They had many press cars in different colours. Just because the above reviewers were provided a red one does not prove anything. Additionally only 1 of those links is crimson red.... the rest are melbourne red. Your whole premise of value for your car is that it has a manual gear shifter, news flash the Z4 E89 is a comfortable GT cruiser. Its suited to the auto. You act as if your car is a Cayman R lol.

Additionally not understanding how you 'calculated' there is only 1 of yours despite BMW stating up to 28. Even if there is only 1 isnt that more telling of the crappy options that were chosen for it? Lol.....

If the Z4 was to appreciate im pretty sure it would be the 35is (prices are pretty stable due to low supply), and not your poverty spec 35i.

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Post by Valor1 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:16 pm

sunnydays wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:25 am
Valor1 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 am
MACK wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:36 pm OP have you considered if yours is truly rare its because the original owner picked all the wrong colours/options!
Yes, you're right. The car that is at the top of this page....must be wrong color as it is same config as mine. Oh, and I guess the press car used chosen by BMW was the wrong color as well. Lord knows you wouldn't want a "resale red" sports car with a twin turbo six and a manual gearbox.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/05/12/luxis ... sdrive35i/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBjmtiInYk

http://jalopnik.com/5243469/2009-bmw-z4-first-drive

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12754/4317247/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmwIw90HNY
They had many press cars in different colours. Just because the above reviewers were provided a red one does not prove anything. Additionally only 1 of those links is crimson red.... the rest are melbourne red. Your whole premise of value for your car is that it has a manual gear shifter, news flash the Z4 E89 is a comfortable GT cruiser. Its suited to the auto. You act as if your car is a Cayman R lol.

Additionally not understanding how you 'calculated' there is only 1 of yours despite BMW stating up to 28. Even if there is only 1 isnt that more telling of the crappy options that were chosen for it? Lol.....

If the Z4 was to appreciate im pretty sure it would be the 35is (prices are pretty stable due to low supply), and not your poverty spec 35i.
I don't know why I bother here when certain folks make their ignorance self-evident. To correct you, BMW said there are 28 E89 Z4 in Crimson Red with the Exclusive Ivory Leather interior. This includes the automatic transmission and the manual gearbox. BMW has also stated that 86% of the Sdrive35i were automatic gearboxes and only 14% were manual gearboxes. So how do you come up with "1 of yours despite BMW stating up to 28" when the math would indicate less than four cars produced including mine?

I know you have a limited perspective but fact is performance cars with manual gearboxes are commanding a premium over the automatic gearboxes....as we inch now further toward autonomous cars. I guess you don't follow the Ferrari, Lamborghini or other such markets? Cars with a stick and paddles are showing cars with the stick doing much better than paddles. Not just the rare ones like the 575, Super America, 599 but even common cars such 430, Gallardo, Murci, etc., are all showing manual gearboxes are worth more. Have you not seen what happened to Porsches most recent "manual gearbox only" cars, the (Boxster Spyder and 911R)....they are commanding prices higher than their original sticker prices. Wonder why that is.....Manual Gearbox!

Some folks actually like to drive and that means involving our left leg and our right arm, clutch and shifter.

Now I see though why in the UK they call these cars hairdresser cars.

Still, I'm sure your car has the same features as my "poverty spec" E89, with the Cold Weather Package, the Premium Package, the Sport Package with the Adaptive M Suspension and increased top speed, the Comfort Access Keyless Entry, the 19" wheels, Navigation and of course, minus the over $2,000 Ivory leather option, etc.

I've no doubt yours is not a hairdresser car and so you've upped the boost on your twin turbo 6. Are you running the JB4? I'm sure you'll be getting nearly 500 hp given your quality of gas and higher octane availability. I hear driveablity is better with the manual or has that improved now?

Too bad you don't have the manual gearbox though so you can really take full advantage of the "sport" aspect of the Z4.

What brake upgrades have you done? Brembo or BMW?

I've just purchased a staggered set of forged lightweight wheels. Can't wait for the new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S to arrive. Hopefully the 255 19" fronts will work with the 295/20" rears fitment-wise.

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Post by Ewazix » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:58 pm

Here you go friend, seriously it looks like they should be able to help :|

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Post by john-e89 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:00 pm

The E89 is not, a sports car, end of. It's a GT cruiser, especially the 35i and 35is, albeit a very nice one. The steering is lacking in feel, it's heavy, and it simply isn't as nimble as an E85 for e.g. So suggesting a manual gearbox in an E98 in the same scentence as Ferrari, is a very strange comparison imho. A manual in a Ferrari is very desirable, for obvious reasons. If you want exciting sports car driving an E89 35i or is is a poor choice.
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Post by Pastry » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:01 pm

Valor1 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 am

I don't know why I bother here when certain folks make their ignorance self-evident.
I don't know why you bother here either, most of us think you're an arsehole. Have a good day :thumbsup:
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Post by Marlon » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:08 pm

john-e89 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:00 pm The E89 is not, a sports car, end of. It's a GT cruiser, especially the 35i and 35is, albeit a very nice one. The steering is lacking in feel, it's heavy, and it simply isn't as nimble as an E85 for e.g. So suggesting a manual gearbox in an E98 in the same scentence as Ferrari, is a very strange comparison imho. A manual in a Ferrari is very desirable, for obvious reasons. If you want exciting sports car driving an E89 35i or is is a poor choice.
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Post by PerryGunn » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:08 pm

Valor1 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:16 pm Blah, blah, lots of opinionated tosh, blah, blah.... ad nauseam...
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Post by ferry » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:20 pm

Valor1 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:16 pm
sunnydays wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:25 am
Valor1 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:03 am

Yes, you're right. The car that is at the top of this page....must be wrong color as it is same config as mine. Oh, and I guess the press car used chosen by BMW was the wrong color as well. Lord knows you wouldn't want a "resale red" sports car with a twin turbo six and a manual gearbox.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/05/12/luxis ... sdrive35i/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBjmtiInYk

http://jalopnik.com/5243469/2009-bmw-z4-first-drive

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12754/4317247/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nmwIw90HNY
They had many press cars in different colours. Just because the above reviewers were provided a red one does not prove anything. Additionally only 1 of those links is crimson red.... the rest are melbourne red. Your whole premise of value for your car is that it has a manual gear shifter, news flash the Z4 E89 is a comfortable GT cruiser. Its suited to the auto. You act as if your car is a Cayman R lol.

Additionally not understanding how you 'calculated' there is only 1 of yours despite BMW stating up to 28. Even if there is only 1 isnt that more telling of the crappy options that were chosen for it? Lol.....

If the Z4 was to appreciate im pretty sure it would be the 35is (prices are pretty stable due to low supply), and not your poverty spec 35i.
I don't know why I bother here when certain folks make their ignorance self-evident. To correct you, BMW said there are 28 E89 Z4 in Crimson Red with the Exclusive Ivory Leather interior. This includes the automatic transmission and the manual gearbox. BMW has also stated that 86% of the Sdrive35i were automatic gearboxes and only 14% were manual gearboxes. So how do you come up with "1 of yours despite BMW stating up to 28" when the math would indicate less than four cars produced including mine?

I know you have a limited perspective but fact is performance cars with manual gearboxes are commanding a premium over the automatic gearboxes....as we inch now further toward autonomous cars. I guess you don't follow the Ferrari, Lamborghini or other such markets? Cars with a stick and paddles are showing cars with the stick doing much better than paddles. Not just the rare ones like the 575, Super America, 599 but even common cars such 430, Gallardo, Murci, etc., are all showing manual gearboxes are worth more. Have you not seen what happened to Porsches most recent "manual gearbox only" cars, the (Boxster Spyder and 911R)....they are commanding prices higher than their original sticker prices. Wonder why that is.....Manual Gearbox!

Some folks actually like to drive and that means involving our left leg and our right arm, clutch and shifter.

Now I see though why in the UK they call these cars hairdresser cars.

Still, I'm sure your car has the same features as my "poverty spec" E89, with the Cold Weather Package, the Premium Package, the Sport Package with the Adaptive M Suspension and increased top speed, the Comfort Access Keyless Entry, the 19" wheels, Navigation and of course, minus the over $2,000 Ivory leather option, etc.

I've no doubt yours is not a hairdresser car and so you've upped the boost on your twin turbo 6. Are you running the JB4? I'm sure you'll be getting nearly 500 hp given your quality of gas and higher octane availability. I hear driveablity is better with the manual or has that improved now?

Too bad you don't have the manual gearbox though so you can really take full advantage of the "sport" aspect of the Z4.

What brake upgrades have you done? Brembo or BMW?

I've just purchased a staggered set of forged lightweight wheels. Can't wait for the new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S to arrive. Hopefully the 255 19" fronts will work with the 295/20" rears fitment-wise.
Good grief. Some people say that the folk of LA are arrogant, rude and snobbish. I have no idea why they'd have such an opinion. That post is weapons grade cuntishness.

You're using the wrong arm and leg, maybe that's where you're going wrong?

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