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Post by Wildfire » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:07 pm

Scooba_Steve wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:55 pm
Wildfire wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:39 pmAh right. Many thinks again Mike and Rob.

I reckon it's on it's way out. It wasd just a cheap and cheerful, not INPA. Ah well....
You near me? I'm NW London
I’m in Sutton Surrey, not a million miles away. I reckon I’ll probably just get the stat and pump changed as it’s in the mileage that it usually goes.

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Post by Mr Tidy » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:34 pm

OP, if the water pump hasn't been changed already you are probably on the way to needing one.

My first Coupe only managed 9 years and 60K miles before the pump died. :(

Good luck getting it sorted. :thumbsup:
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Post by Ducklakeview » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:01 pm

Wildfire wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:07 pm
Scooba_Steve wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:55 pm
Wildfire wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:39 pmAh right. Many thinks again Mike and Rob.

I reckon it's on it's way out. It wasd just a cheap and cheerful, not INPA. Ah well....
You near me? I'm NW London
I’m in Sutton Surrey, not a million miles away. I reckon I’ll probably just get the stat and pump changed as it’s in the mileage that it usually goes.

Balls. Money isn’t the issue. It’s just time.
You can DIY it in an hour, the pump comes with the one use alloy bolts for mounting it.

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Post by Scooba_Steve » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:05 pm

Wildfire wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:07 pmI’m in Sutton Surrey, not a million miles away. I reckon I’ll probably just get the stat and pump changed as it’s in the mileage that it usually goes.

Balls. Money isn’t the issue. It’s just time.
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Post by Wildfire » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:52 am

Ducklakeview wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:01 pm
Wildfire wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:07 pm
Scooba_Steve wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:55 pm

You near me? I'm NW London
I’m in Sutton Surrey, not a million miles away. I reckon I’ll probably just get the stat and pump changed as it’s in the mileage that it usually goes.

Balls. Money isn’t the issue. It’s just time.
You can DIY it in an hour, the pump comes with the one use alloy bolts for mounting it.

Mike
Cheers Mike, my dad has a full workshop. Pump and stat ordered and a day off on Wednesday.
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Post by Ducklakeview » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:24 am

When doing it, it's easier to push the snap on pipes into the static you do it before bolting the stat to the pump, as you can get both hands on it at that point.

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Post by Wildfire » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:25 pm

Ducklakeview wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:24 am When doing it, it's easier to push the snap on pipes into the static you do it before bolting the stat to the pump, as you can get both hands on it at that point.

Mike

Cheers, good to know. That is if I can still feel my hands! Tyupical it would go just as the cold weather sets in!
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Post by Ducklakeview » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:56 pm

They can be a pain to bleed. You also need to activate the self bleeding procedure as follows;

You MUST have a diagnostic power supply or charger attached to the battery when doing this, as if the voltage falls below a certain level it will stop the procedure. Bear in mind that you will have the ign on, the blower, dipped headlights AND the pump running continuously at max speed, so you will be draining about 50 amps..

After you have finished fitting the pump etc and topped up the coolant, leave the expansion tank cap off.

Turn ign on, do not start engine
Turn dipped headlights on
Set heater temp to MAX
Set blower speed to min, one click NOT off
Sport button needs to be OFF
Then press accelerator Fully to the floor and hold for 10 seconds, the coolant pump will then activate continuously for 12 minutes, you can remove your foot from the accelerator after the 10 seconds once the pump has started!

You will hear all sorts of gurgling and bubbling noises whilst the pump purges air from the system. After 12 minutes it will stop.

Top up coolant, fit cap and start engine, running it up to temp, then re check coolant level.

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Post by Smartbear » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:44 pm

For the life of me I can’t work out why the headlights need to be on, why is this Mike?
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Post by Ducklakeview » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:54 pm

Smartbear wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:44 pm For the life of me I can’t work out why the headlights need to be on, why is this Mike?
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This;

"If the low-beam headlights are not switched on, the ignition (Terminal 15) will switch off automatically after a certain period of time, because the engine is not running and interrupt the bleeding procedure."

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Post by Smartbear » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:58 pm

Now I know :thumbsup:
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Post by Wildfire » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:24 pm

It did look a bit involved, I have a decent charger and a mate has just said I can do it in his workshop where he has the diagnostic machine.

Or he could do it for a few beer tokens.
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Post by Ducklakeview » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:26 pm

Wildfire wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:24 pm It did look a bit involved, I have a decent charger and a mate has just said I can do it in his workshop where he has the diagnostic machine.

Or he could do it for a few beer tokens.
Diagnostic machine not needed to do the bleed, unless you want to check /clear codes.

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Post by Wildfire » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:25 pm

Right, pump ordered, thermostat ordered. Replaced yesterday and bled. All seems ok. I'll check the level later on. Was not cheap to do though, or that easy.
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Post by ph001 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:13 pm

Wildfire wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:25 pm Right, pump ordered, thermostat ordered. Replaced yesterday and bled. All seems ok. I'll check the level later on. Was not cheap to do though, or that easy.
Good man. Can you give any tips / anything to watch out for? Always good to give back to the forum :wink:
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