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Post by mac27040 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:02 pm

I did have mine stuck in 1st gear once but played around with gear stick (ie moving it between reverse, neutral and drive ) and switching ignition off and on and i eventually moved out of drive into neutral so it would start.

only happen once.
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Post by kis » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:17 am

mac27040 ever find out what caused it? I'm thinking of getting indie to take a look at the pump when it next goes in... make sure theres definitely enough hydraulic fluid there. So if there is ever an issue, it should rule out the fluid being too low.
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Post by Rich61 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:50 am

Have a look on M3 Cutters there's loads of info on faults and fixes on there as its the same system basically in the M3

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Post by McDade » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:11 pm

Quick update, as i took the day off last week

Re-checked fuses 9 and 32 to ensure they were OK. Reseated
Reseated 'salmon' relay under bonnet.
Disconnected battery for 15 minutes
Read and cleared all error codes (P0701)
Lifted car onto axle stands, but couldnt get under enough to identify fluid reservoir

I still cannot hear the pump prime when unlocking the car, this is a concern for me

At the moment im looking at options to recover the car on a low loader and get it to a garage.

Big thanks to Mac for spending the time to give me tips through PM, and everyone who has given me a little hope and stuff to try

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Post by McDade » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:13 pm

Rich61 wrote:Have a look on M3 Cutters there's loads of info on faults and fixes on there as its the same system basically in the M3
Ive spent loads of time looking through here, the problem is the original M3 that had most of the SMG problems is a generation one SMG. They are slightly different to the SMG (or SSG) gearbox thats in the E85 Z4.

Thanks anyway though!
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Post by kis » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:31 am

McDade wrote:Quick update, as i took the day off last week

Re-checked fuses 9 and 32 to ensure they were OK. Reseated
Reseated 'salmon' relay under bonnet.
Disconnected battery for 15 minutes
Read and cleared all error codes (P0701)
Lifted car onto axle stands, but couldnt get under enough to identify fluid reservoir

I still cannot hear the pump prime when unlocking the car, this is a concern for me

At the moment im looking at options to recover the car on a low loader and get it to a garage.

Big thanks to Mac for spending the time to give me tips through PM, and everyone who has given me a little hope and stuff to try

Cheers
Be interesting to hear what the problem/fix is when you find out. Please keep us posted! :)
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Post by McDade » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:53 am

I will indeed, ive got a busy month ahead so may be next month when i get round to sorting this!

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Post by McDade » Tue May 23, 2017 6:15 pm

Hello

So this weekend I finally plucked up the courage to get my Z4 into the garage. I initially decided to send it direct to BMW due to the nature of the fault

They've called me today to let me know the hydraulic pump has indeed failed and the replacement part is £3000. THREE THOUSAND POUNDS!!!

I can't believe the price of the part alone. Does anyone have any advice on this? I'm now facing the genuine possibility of having to scrap the thing

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Post by ranski » Tue May 23, 2017 6:17 pm

prices have gone up somewhat!

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Post by McDade » Tue May 23, 2017 6:41 pm

I was kind of using that as a bench mark of what to expect! Not 3 grand! It's an obscene amount
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Post by MACK » Tue May 23, 2017 7:19 pm

Can't really help much other than to suggest trying to avoid BMW and hunt down a good transmission specialist or even hydralic pump spcialist etc who might be able to get a replacement or a recon done somewhere.

Failing that then I would suggest to try looking into getting a manual box with the selector mech/ clutch hydralics from a breaker etc to do a conversion. However I've no idea how feasible that would be to do.
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Post by patriot66 » Tue May 23, 2017 7:36 pm

Hi McDade. The whole hydraulic unit consists of quite a few separate parts and indeed this would cost in the region of £3k. :( However just the hydraulic pump itself is approximately 'only' £330 :) . If I was you I would phone around a few independent BMW specialists; of which there are quite a few on Google, and see what they advise. If you can get it into a good indy and they can be more accurate and pinpoint the specific faulty part/s then it may 'only' cost you a few hundred pounds to fix it. :thumbsup:
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Post by kis » Tue May 23, 2017 10:14 pm

Another vote for an indie. Should be able to quote for just a replacement part and not a whole host of other unnecessary parts.

Failing that maybe keep on the lookout for a SMG being broken?

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Post by markplant » Tue May 23, 2017 10:40 pm

I know a good indie between notts an derby, or Andy fanshawe who's done the project zed restoration might fancy a crack at it, Andy is in chesterfield, obvious problem is getting car to either , but might be worth talking to them
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Post by mac27040 » Wed May 24, 2017 9:43 am

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