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Post by MACK » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:50 am

G600 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:27 am
srhutch wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:23 pm It's not going to be the roof motor if nothing else is happening.
Good to know, thanks.
I think you either need to try a battery disconnect just to see if the module has lost the plot a little. To be honest its a long short but worth a try before doing anything else. What you really need to do is find somone with decent diagnostic software and read the codes in the roof module. When the sensors go down,there's a broken wire (open/short circuit code) or the latch motor fails etc you get the symptoms your describing usually with no lights in the panel. You might be lucky and its just a temporary glitch so worth trying the battery first
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Post by G600 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:28 pm

MACK wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:50 am
G600 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:27 am
srhutch wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:23 pm
I think you either need to try a battery disconnect just to see if the module has lost the plot a little. To be honest its a long short but worth a try before doing anything else. What you really need to do is find somone with decent diagnostic software and read the codes in the roof module. When the sensors go down,there's a broken wire (open/short circuit code) or the latch motor fails etc you get the symptoms your describing usually with no lights in the panel. You might be lucky and its just a temporary glitch so worth trying the battery first
I've tried disconnecting the battery for 20mins but it didn't clear it unfortunately. I scanned the module with Carly, it gave 2 errors, both
"arrestor hook drive" after manually opening the roof I put the bowden cable and everything back to standard and the roof closed up to the latch point using the hydraulic pump so i feel i can safely rule that out.
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Post by MACK » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:19 pm

G600 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:28 pm
MACK wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:50 am
G600 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:27 am

I've tried disconnecting the battery for 20mins but it didn't clear it unfortunately. I scanned the module with Carly, it gave 2 errors, both
"arrestor hook drive" after manually opening the roof I put the bowden cable and everything back to standard and the roof closed up to the latch point using the hydraulic pump so i feel i can safely rule that out.
It might be you've had a temporary one off glitch with one of the hooks or the motor that drives the hooks that are located in the top of your roof. But it could also be an indication of an intermittent fault with either the motor or the left hook (as this side has the hall sensor the roof module uses for positional data). It could also indicate a fault within the wiring loom of the roof (damaged/broken wire). Unfortunately the only real way you will know is to see how you get on over the next few/days/weeks/months.
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Post by G600 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:48 pm

I'm not liking the sound of months :( thanks for the info, I'll see if i can access and test the hall sensor, last year the top wouldn't unlatch fully but was fine after a light greasing so that points to a weak motor, I'll check that as well.
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Post by MACK » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:30 pm

G600 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:48 pm I'm not liking the sound of months :( thanks for the info, I'll see if i can access and test the hall sensor, last year the top wouldn't unlatch fully but was fine after a light greasing so that points to a weak motor, I'll check that as well.
Might be worth a go, but unfortunately if its a intermittent fault they may check out fine but still be the cause of your issue.
Just a thought, was this the first time the top was down this year? Maybe its not a weak motor but a worn or sticking latch. especially if a light greasing help last year, might be worth another go.
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Post by G600 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:02 pm

MACK wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:30 pm
Might be worth a go, but unfortunately if its a intermittent fault they may check out fine but still be the cause of your issue.
Exactly why I hate intermittent faults!
It's been up and down all winter, I did spend last week driving all around farmland with the roof down and the interior was full of dust when I got home, maybe that got into the mechanism and is causing it to stick, I'll give it a clean and grease. It opened and closed completely normally just now, hopefully that's a sign of things to come!
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Post by firebobby » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:41 pm

See if you can borrow an air line and blow the dust out of the nooks and crannies. So it's working again ?, maybe after your off roading adventure, the car went into sulk mode for treating it like a tractor :wink:
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Post by G600 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:59 pm

firebobby wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:41 pm See if you can borrow an air line and blow the dust out of the nooks and crannies. So it's working again ?, maybe after your off roading adventure, the car went into sulk mode for treating it like a tractor :wink:
:D certainly worth a go
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Post by G600 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:01 pm

To clarify, I was on the roads in between fields, not spending a week plowing!
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Post by firebobby » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:11 pm

G600 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:01 pm To clarify, I was on the roads in between fields, not spending a week plowing!
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Post by mac27040 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:25 am

check fuses 12,31 & 55
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Post by G600 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:42 pm

mac27040 wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:25 am check fuses 12,31 & 55
I checked those first, it's been up and down fully the last couple of times I've tried so fingers crossed greasing it worked.
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Post by Coffee331 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:32 am

Did you get sorted on this?

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Post by G600 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:25 am

I thought I might have got lucky as it worked properly a couple of times, but yesterday it wouldn't latch closed so not sorted yet, have you got the same problem?
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Post by Coffee331 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:44 pm

I have...but I only bought the car yesterday so don't yet have possession of it. Trying to research what to do firstly when I get to pick it up :roll:

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