The squeak and creak from hell drove me to this.

dario · Post by **dario** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:40 pm

After a weekend driving around in North Wales a few weeks ago, the squeak and creak from just behind the drivers and passengers seats finally drove me to rip it all apart and fix it.

all the rear trim came off and i added some stick on anti squeak tape on everything i could.

put it all back together and it still bloody squeezed and rattled. I then took the rear roof lining out.... could not find a problem. Eventually traced it down to the black nylon peg that locates in to the rear boot lid deck when closed.

greased it and and hey presto.

still, i know how they put the car together now LOL

very interesting all the same!

jimbo1958 · Post by **jimbo1958** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:05 pm

Great work Dario.....sure this will help others. Must of been a relief to find it.

Marlon · Post by **Marlon** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:08 pm

Thats what I call determination

Found it in the end, well done

craig3.2 · Post by **craig3.2** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:11 pm

Determination indeed....great job taking the car apart so much to get it found and sorted

john-e89 · Post by **john-e89** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:19 pm

Good find Dario, what a performance though.

Thanks for posting, very useful info.

firebobby · Post by **firebobby** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:52 am

Wow, what an epic journey to stop a squeak, well done

Chris_D · Post by **Chris_D** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:38 am

Wow! Hardcore!
I had a squeak on my e85 when the roof was down but not up so figured it was the different position of the roof mech or latching mech.
Sprayed everything with silicone and squeak disappeared. Result!

Maniac · Post by **Maniac** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:16 pm

Oh my..

Out of interest how easy is the roof lining to remove?

I've had a jerky clamshell close for ages where the back clamshell moves over the top when closing the shift in weight makes the car bounce.

Looking at the mechanism it seems two rods go into the space under the front roof lining and I'm guessing there are dampers there that I'd like to take a look at.

dario · Post by **dario** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:40 pm

The rear roof section is not so bad. You do need a panel removal tooto access the 4 of the 6 press in clips to ease them out by going in from the side. Whilst the roof lining mounting clips are glued in well, I would not trust them to stay put and not get ripped off, it took about 10 minutes a good torch and balls of steel.

You can see the clips. They are white and the lining holder part is black. Clips are replaceable if you damage them. The black bit of trim that runs down the sue of the rams in located in to the bottom with a push in lug on each side.

Btw it sounds like you have air in the hydraulic system.

MACK · Post by **MACK** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:50 pm

Now thats single minded determination for you! Well done, glad you found it, I fear if you had failed in your quest you would be needing therapy about now! Would have been soul destroying to put it all back together knowing it had achieved nothing.

Maniac · Post by **Maniac** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:22 pm

dario wrote:The rear roof section is not so bad. You do need a panel removal tooto access the 4 of the 6 press in clips to ease them out by going in from the side. Whilst the roof lining mounting clips are glued in well, I would not trust them to stay put and not get ripped off, it took about 10 minutes a good torch and balls of steel.

You can see the clips. They are white and the lining holder part is black. Clips are replaceable if you damage them. The black bit of trim that runs down the sue of the rams in located in to the bottom with a push in lug on each side.

Btw it sounds like you have air in the hydraulic system.

Thanks for that. I'm not sure it's air, could be, the issue has always been there, like dampers should be there to take up the shift of weight. This is what it looks like, it's like the first movement puts momentum into the weight of the roof which then catches up before it jerks again into a smooth movement at the final close stage.

Bumpy · Post by **Bumpy** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:09 pm

Thank goodness you don't have a mouse in your house.

dario · Post by **dario** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:29 pm

Maniac wrote:
dario wrote:The rear roof section is not so bad. You do need a panel removal tooto access the 4 of the 6 press in clips to ease them out by going in from the side. Whilst the roof lining mounting clips are glued in well, I would not trust them to stay put and not get ripped off, it took about 10 minutes a good torch and balls of steel.

You can see the clips. They are white and the lining holder part is black. Clips are replaceable if you damage them. The black bit of trim that runs down the sue of the rams in located in to the bottom with a push in lug on each side.

Btw it sounds like you have air in the hydraulic system.
Thanks for that. I'm not sure it's air, could be, the issue has always been there, like dampers should be there to take up the shift of weight. This is what it looks like, it's like the first movement puts momentum into the weight of the roof which then catches up before it jerks again into a smooth movement at the final close stage.

Ive had a look and pretty sure there are no dampers, just the hydraulic bi-directional pistons.

I look a picture of that area

dario · Post by **dario** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:30 pm

Phew,

All done and working with no excess bits and pieces lol

Maniac · Post by **Maniac** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:33 pm

Good to know there's no left overs!

The bars are small and go inside the front clamshell.. I can't see why they would unless to connect to a damper.

The bar is connected to the mech that moves on the rear clamshell movement and the bar moves inside the front roof clamshell roof beam.

Easier to see when it's in motion. I may get the tool and take it apart to see. I suspect my dampers are shot.

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