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Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
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- Lifer
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
Interesting just read this.
Only noticed recently that i have no tweeters and was looking to fit.
Have already had the doors off as i fitted some puddle led lights into the bottom of the doors and foot wells.
I took a feed wire from the dome light to drive a relay to switch the lights.
I used a wooden cooking spatula to remove the door panels.
Only noticed recently that i have no tweeters and was looking to fit.
Have already had the doors off as i fitted some puddle led lights into the bottom of the doors and foot wells.
I took a feed wire from the dome light to drive a relay to switch the lights.
I used a wooden cooking spatula to remove the door panels.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
nice upgrade which part numbers did you use for this... thanks
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Done a superb job! The display you present for us is inspiring and very professional. It looks like you put lots of time into that work. I am also work on my z4 tweeters. This is good for taking ideas from there.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
Just bought these;
http://www.maplin.co.uk/1.5-inch-3.8cm- ... ers-217928
When you unscrew and take the unit apart the tweeter fits perfect into the 1 1/2 inch hole.
Have yet to wire up.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/1.5-inch-3.8cm- ... ers-217928
When you unscrew and take the unit apart the tweeter fits perfect into the 1 1/2 inch hole.
Have yet to wire up.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
A few pics and a write up of install would be niceflybobbie wrote:Just bought these;
http://www.maplin.co.uk/1.5-inch-3.8cm- ... ers-217928
When you unscrew and take the unit apart the tweeter fits perfect into the 1 1/2 inch hole.
Have yet to wire up.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
Finished yesterday and well worth the effort. Sounds ok.
You can if careful get away with just removing the screw behind the door handle and pulling the door trim back from the top.
If you remove the tweeter housing, grip at the top and pull outwards, when free, pull up as the bottom locator fits into a keyhole shape.
You will then see the wires for the mirror. Grip the door panel where the wires go behind the door panel and pull. There's just enough room to reach down to the twisted pair to the speaker. Use a scotch bloc, as there's very little free wiring to play with.
You can if careful get away with just removing the screw behind the door handle and pulling the door trim back from the top.
If you remove the tweeter housing, grip at the top and pull outwards, when free, pull up as the bottom locator fits into a keyhole shape.
You will then see the wires for the mirror. Grip the door panel where the wires go behind the door panel and pull. There's just enough room to reach down to the twisted pair to the speaker. Use a scotch bloc, as there's very little free wiring to play with.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
If you get the proper BMW tweeters the connector already exists to clip on to the main speaker, no need for scotch-blocks and is much neater. It also has a crossover built into the tweeter to match the BMW OEM mid range speaker.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
Further to Maniacs wonderful work above, I have progressed this a little further; Although the BMW Hi-Fi tweeters add about another 50% to the upper frequency range, the existing mids were still trying their best to make a mess of it, which resulted in too much treble and very little mid range. After some investigation it transpires that some of the MINI's (Coopers and above) use a similar mount and share the same front profile but are designed purely for mid range. They are also much cheaper on Ebay than the E89 Specific unit. (The E46 and similar have a 1 cm lip protruding from the front which will not fit into the E89).
I think the BMW tweeters used in the E89 are unique as they have a very shallow profile. The Hi-Fi tweeters were £24.00 each whereas the Top version was almost £70.00
Mini Unit on the Left showing a much bigger magnet and voice coil, but have the same depth and almost flush front mounting ring. I managed to get a pair of Mini Cooper Mids for 25.00 delivered and they are so much better when used with the BMW tweeters. There seems to be plenty of them on FleaBay so they are quite cheap.
Part Numbers are shown below. The crossover for the tweeter is built into the harness.
I think the BMW tweeters used in the E89 are unique as they have a very shallow profile. The Hi-Fi tweeters were £24.00 each whereas the Top version was almost £70.00
Mini Unit on the Left showing a much bigger magnet and voice coil, but have the same depth and almost flush front mounting ring. I managed to get a pair of Mini Cooper Mids for 25.00 delivered and they are so much better when used with the BMW tweeters. There seems to be plenty of them on FleaBay so they are quite cheap.
Part Numbers are shown below. The crossover for the tweeter is built into the harness.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
That video is a very nice find. Though the latter part where they remove the cable in the door isn't required for the tweeter upgrade. I just placed the door card, wires in tact, on a pile of towels under the door. If anyone feels like removing the entire door card as in the video, I'd suggest taking a picture of the panel before you start unclipping the cables because there are a lot of clips and you might struggle a bit to put it all back without a guide.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
Just fitted some in the rear speakers, the one's just behind your ears.
In my car it's blanked over so drilled it out with a hole cutter and wired through to the front bass speaker.
Sounds good.
That and the speakers I fitted behind the seats, all sound reasonable for the standard hifi.
In my car it's blanked over so drilled it out with a hole cutter and wired through to the front bass speaker.
Sounds good.
That and the speakers I fitted behind the seats, all sound reasonable for the standard hifi.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
Sorry to resurect but this is probable one of threads thats needs to be kept live
I have just fitted the BMW tweeters to my car. These have improved the stereo separartion and also helped to lift the sound stage.
Its got my car audio juces flowing and I must resist having just installed all my car audio gear into my Freelander, which is my main transport (well it will be once the honeymoon period is over)
If I was to upgrade I would go one of two routes.
1) Audison Bit ten, JL Audio 2 channel amp and three way speaker setup
2) Audison bit ten, JL Audio 4 channel amp and either a 3 ways speaker setup or 2 way and bass speaker.
It always perplexes my why people spend time upgrading their rear speakers. The soundstage should be at the front
I have just fitted the BMW tweeters to my car. These have improved the stereo separartion and also helped to lift the sound stage.
Its got my car audio juces flowing and I must resist having just installed all my car audio gear into my Freelander, which is my main transport (well it will be once the honeymoon period is over)
If I was to upgrade I would go one of two routes.
1) Audison Bit ten, JL Audio 2 channel amp and three way speaker setup
2) Audison bit ten, JL Audio 4 channel amp and either a 3 ways speaker setup or 2 way and bass speaker.
It always perplexes my why people spend time upgrading their rear speakers. The soundstage should be at the front
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
Re the mids, how are the high end frequencies prevented form getting to the mids? I would have thought a xover would be neededE89_Gaz wrote:Further to Maniacs wonderful work above, I have progressed this a little further; Although the BMW Hi-Fi tweeters add about another 50% to the upper frequency range, the existing mids were still trying their best to make a mess of it, which resulted in too much treble and very little mid range. After some investigation it transpires that some of the MINI's (Coopers and above) use a similar mount and share the same front profile but are designed purely for mid range. They are also much cheaper on Ebay than the E89 Specific unit. (The E46 and similar have a 1 cm lip protruding from the front which will not fit into the E89).
I think the BMW tweeters used in the E89 are unique as they have a very shallow profile. The Hi-Fi tweeters were £24.00 each whereas the Top version was almost £70.00
Mini Unit on the Left showing a much bigger magnet and voice coil, but have the same depth and almost flush front mounting ring. I managed to get a pair of Mini Cooper Mids for 25.00 delivered and they are so much better when used with the BMW tweeters. There seems to be plenty of them on FleaBay so they are quite cheap.
Part Numbers are shown below. The crossover for the tweeter is built into the harness.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
That little bit of heatshrink at the bottom of the last photo contains a capacitor.
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Re: Standard Hifi - Tweeter Upgrade
I relise that, thats for the tweeter and is a high pass filter, however the mid will still be getting all the frequencies, inc high. Thats possibly why the sound stage is poorE89_Gaz wrote:That little bit of heatshrink at the bottom of the last photo contains a capacitor.