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Re: What Tyres???

Postby mmm-five - Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:06 pm

peddy wrote:going from 255/40 to 255/35 will mean when the speedo says 70mph it's actually be 67.24mph, so if car manufactures put the speedo out by what is suggested to be around 3mph then the speed will be more accurate?

I checked on the following site: http://www.alloywheels.com/Tyre_Calculator

Your assumption for using the tool is that 70mph on the clock is 70mph on the road - which we know it isn't - so the original speed in your calculation needs to take that into account.

So original speed (70mph) minus error factor (5%) equals road speed (67mph) for a standard 255/40r18 tyre.

Fit a smaller (255/35r18) tyre and it's reduced by 2.5%, so you get a speedo showing 70mph when you're actually doing 65mph.

Fit a larger (265/40r18) tyre and it's increased by 1%, so you get a speedo showing 70mph when you're actually doing 68mph.

However, you also have to take into account that the tyre sizes are 'approximate' and the Michelin SuperSport is a wider/taller tyre than the claimed dimensions - I did have a thread on here where I'd researched the actual size vs the claimed sizes - so mine is about 2% extra, which makes my 70mph actually 69mph.

All approximately of course :P
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby mmm-five - Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:10 pm

Rye wrote:have you had any problems running slightly bigger widths on the rears and would you recomend going for some 265's ? And what tyres are you running ? :)

I'm running Michelin Pilot SuperSports - would have them in the OEM size, but they're not available in the UK...yet.

Done about 15k on the rears, and 17k on the fronts, and they have about 5mm left.

Only issue is on track, where the offside rear rubs slightly on hard left hand cornering (cornering you wouldn't do on the public road) :oops:

If you don't want to risk any rubbing then go for one of the new Conti/Goodyear in the 265 size, as they're slightly narrower than the Michelin.
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby peddy - Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:23 pm

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peddy wrote:going from 255/40 to 255/35 will mean when the speedo says 70mph it's actually be 67.24mph, so if car manufactures put the speedo out by what is suggested to be around 3mph then the speed will be more accurate?

I checked on the following site: http://www.alloywheels.com/Tyre_Calculator

Your assumption for using the tool is that 70mph on the clock is 70mph on the road - which we know it isn't - so the original speed in your calculation needs to take that into account.

So original speed (70mph) minus error factor (5%) equals road speed (67mph) for a standard 255/40r18 tyre.

Fit a smaller (255/35r18) tyre and it's reduced by 2.5%, so you get a speedo showing 70mph when you're actually doing 65mph.

Fit a larger (265/40r18) tyre and it's increased by 1%, so you get a speedo showing 70mph when you're actually doing 68mph.

However, you also have to take into account that the tyre sizes are 'approximate' and the Michelin SuperSport is a wider/taller tyre than the claimed dimensions - I did have a thread on here where I'd researched the actual size vs the claimed sizes - so mine is about 2% extra, which makes my 70mph actually 69mph.

All approximately of course :P

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Re: What Tyres???

Postby Rye - Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:53 pm

think i have decided to go for the new michelin pilot super sports after reading and hearing nothing but great things about them

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b0s3715p69 ... %29_XL_TL_

going for 265 40 18

£245 a piece seems about the best price i can find them for :?
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby mmm-five - Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:23 pm

Rye wrote:£245 a piece seems about the best price i can find them for :?

That's about £30 cheaper than I paid last August, but I guess that's a combination of higher availability and the 10% increase in the £:€ rate.

Camskill also seem to be the cheapest - although I try to get mine when Costco have a 20/25% discount on 4 tyres (don't have to be same size). Mine were £1000 (£220 and £280 respectively) as I missed out on a 20% off offer. Don't know what their current price is though - but it you could get them supplied & fitted for about £800 all in.
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby Rye - Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:16 am

Well very surprisingly I popped into kwik fit just for a laugh at what they would quote and I told them what I could get them for and they said they would do them for £509 all in! Fitted balanced the lot. I couldn't beleive it haha. Might be asking kwik for a pair instead. Saves faffin about finding a garage to fit them at £10 a corner anyway...
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby mmm-five - Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:09 am

Rye wrote:Well very surprisingly I popped into kwik fit just for a laugh at what they would quote and I told them what I could get them for and they said they would do them for £509 all in! Fitted balanced the lot. I couldn't beleive it haha. Might be asking kwik for a pair instead. Saves faffin about finding a garage to fit them at £10 a corner anyway...

Just make sure that what is fitted is what was ordered.

Speaking from experience - admittedly from a LONG time ago - where I ordered P-Zeros and they fitted P7000s (about a 50% difference in price and performance). Only spotted them when I went over to collect the locking wheel nut key. Then they tried to claim that that's what I'd ordered all along :headbang:
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby ga41 - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:27 pm

The Supersports seem to be an excellent tire. You should be very happy with them.
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby Rye - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:09 pm

mmm-five wrote:
Rye wrote:Well very surprisingly I popped into kwik fit just for a laugh at what they would quote and I told them what I could get them for and they said they would do them for £509 all in! Fitted balanced the lot. I couldn't beleive it haha. Might be asking kwik for a pair instead. Saves faffin about finding a garage to fit them at £10 a corner anyway...

Just make sure that what is fitted is what was ordered.

Speaking from experience - admittedly from a LONG time ago - where I ordered P-Zeros and they fitted P7000s (about a 50% difference in price and performance). Only spotted them when I went over to collect the locking wheel nut key. Then they tried to claim that that's what I'd ordered all along :headbang:


I'll deffintely keep that in mind then and double check thats what they put on then :thumbsup:
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby Nova2k7 - Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:52 pm

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ive just ordered some and have been worried about the reviews! especially in the rain!
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby Rye - Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:00 pm

RIght guys....

Just had the Michellin Pilot Super Sports fitted (PSS) in 265 40 18 and i am VERY pleased with the outcome!

Paid £212 a piece off camskill +£6ish P&P then £10 a corner for fitting so circa £450 all in! :thumbsup:

even though the tyres havent bedded in fully yet i can feel a great improvement in rear end grip through cornering in both dry and wet!

would definately recomend a set of these to anyone else thinking of what tyre to go for next

and there are also no clearance issues or rubbing problems anywhere....arches take them nicely with plenty of room :D
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Re: What Tyres???

Postby mmm-five - Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:17 pm

Just an update on my Pilot Supersports...

The fronts/rears are approaching 20k/18k miles respectively (over about 12 months including 2 x 3-day 'Ring trips) and I've still got 4mm+ all round. Even if they were twice the price of some of the mid-range offerings they'd still be working out at a better £/mile ratio - and you get the benefit of a better/safer tyre.

My only issue with them is that Michelin UK haven't replied to my query about when the 255/40r18 size will be available in the UK, as I know that's putting some people off from trying these :headbang:
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