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Is there Z life after a ///M ?

Post by mr wilks » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:28 pm

Nictrix wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:54 am
MACK wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:43 pm Looks great, the "Lardy E89" point of view is an interesting one. Depending where you look there seems to be about about 80-90Kgs between an 35i manual and an E85M. However there's about 120kg's between an E85M and a E85 3.0i but no one calls the M lardy! :P
I don't understand this either, especially with the amount of E85 owners jumping ship into E89s. I wonder how many of these used to slate the E89?
This is the difference between the two.
The E89 is:
6 inches longer
half an inch wider
half an inch lower
Just a shame its heavier.
And as has been seen in pictures, the E89 doesn't jump out as being huge.
Lardy to my mind describes something slightly heavier than it should be & to a certain extent sum's up the oversized rear flanks of the 89 ( obviously part of the design to incorporate the folding roof within ) which can at certain angles add visual weight to the cars looks ?
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Is there Z life after a ///M ?

Post by Nictrix » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:41 pm

mr wilks wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:28 pm
Nictrix wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:54 am
MACK wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:43 pm Looks great, the "Lardy E89" point of view is an interesting one. Depending where you look there seems to be about about 80-90Kgs between an 35i manual and an E85M. However there's about 120kg's between an E85M and a E85 3.0i but no one calls the M lardy! :P
I don't understand this either, especially with the amount of E85 owners jumping ship into E89s. I wonder how many of these used to slate the E89?
This is the difference between the two.
The E89 is:
6 inches longer
half an inch wider
half an inch lower
Just a shame its heavier.
And as has been seen in pictures, the E89 doesn't jump out as being huge.
Lardy to my mind describes something slightly heavier than it should be & to a certain extent sum's up the oversized rear flanks of the 89 ( obviously part of the design to incorporate the folding roof within ) which can at certain angles add visual weight to the cars looks ?
You just have to look at your pics of the group of Z4s and the E89 doesn't just jump out at you for being completely different.
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:27 pm

Everything is relative, compared to a lotus Elise (750-850kg) the e85 cars are lardy indeed. The difference in weight between the e85 & e89 is negligible for road use :driving:
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Post by Yorkie Z » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:37 pm

For me the lack of a LSD is the biggest problem on the E89. It's a 2k aftermarket mod if you do want one. :(

Second issue is with the roof down you have limited boot space. So a weekend away with luggage means the roof stays up.
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Post by LeeZ4MR » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:07 pm

I prefer the looks of the E89(rear end not so much) and the interior and a 35i Manual would be my ideal Z4, I didn't like the ride/gearbox in my Z4M(presume the Manual is a little better in the E89) and I hated the way it looked with the fabric roof up, so a folding hard top is my preference for sure. I'm a E89 fan certainly.
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:47 pm

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For me the lack of a LSD is the biggest problem on the E89. It's a 2k aftermarket mod if you do want one. :(

Second issue is with the roof down you have limited boot space. So a weekend away with luggage means the roof stays up.
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Drop your cases off at the hotel & the roofs down again! Or pack a bit lighter & there’s no problem at all :wink:
Don’t forget there’s bespoke luggage available for the e89 which still allows for roof operation :thumbsup:
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