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Post by -Tom- » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:57 am

It definitely fascinated me.

So, the Pentagon. That’s a difficult one to believe, I must admit. Hits the empty wing , no injuries , no deaths on the ground , NO CCTV (apart from that sketchy one from a petrol station where something flying looks way too small for an airline :roll: ).

With the pentagon, and putting aside anything about the towers , I always wondered if perhaps they shot down one of the other missing planes but simply couldn’t announce that to the public. It would be hideous. And so set this up as a front. Who knowssss :?
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Post by earthdweller » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:03 pm

Fascinating read

The sad thing is 9/11 continues to take lives

The number of NYPD and Fire officers that have succumbed to cancers caused by the dust is truly shocking
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Post by thanatu55 » Wed May 16, 2018 5:16 pm

Reviving an old thread here but just watched this and it's the best documentary I've seen about 9/11 (and I've seen many) touching on pretty much every aspect discussed in this topic. Very detailed and very long, but if you're up for a long watch then watch this.

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Post by Ducklakeview » Wed May 16, 2018 7:13 pm

thanatu55 wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 5:16 pm Reviving an old thread here but just watched this and it's the best documentary I've seen about 9/11 (and I've seen many) touching on pretty much every aspect discussed in this topic. Very detailed and very long, but if you're up for a long watch then watch this.

Just watched that right through, certainly smacks of every aspect being covered up/manipulated..

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Post by thanatu55 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:33 pm

Ducklakeview wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 7:13 pm Just watched that right through, certainly smacks of every aspect being covered up/manipulated..

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I've watched a lot of stuff on 9/11 and this one is definitely the most thorough and convincing and answers a lot of questions posed in this thread. Those that dismiss the conspiracy theories will argue that it's biased but I think it covers the 'official' line and the counter arguments very well. There is concrete proof that the official documentation has been changed over time as certain theories have been debunked and they've needed a new story to spin. Like you say, all the evidence points to a cover up/manipulation of the facts.
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Post by john-e89 » Wed May 16, 2018 9:36 pm

Tries hard but smacks of amateur nonsense.

So a huge group of deranged mass murderers from so many different walks of life and industries, technical, political, monetary backgrounds all come together to plot and carry out this atrocity but don’t then have the sense to cover basic potential clues that will be investigated??

They’ll have to try a damn site harder than that crap to make any sense.
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Post by Paulwirral » Wed May 16, 2018 10:32 pm

Nictrix wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:37 pm
Ducklakeview wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:19 pm I for one don't believe the "official version" of events.

For one, those buildings were apparently designed to withstand an impact from a plane much larger than those allegedly flown into them.

Secondly, they way in which they came down was WAY too much like a "controlled" demolition.

Just two of my own personal thoughts on the matter..

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They were apparently built to withstand multiple impacts from a plane. This was the spec after the empire state building was hit by a plane.
And as you say about controlled demolition, thats exactly what experts in that field say when shown footage of the towers coming down that it was a controlled demolition.
Do people think it was luck that they fell into their own footprint?
I'm the biggest believer that as this was the first time it happened no one really knew the potential outcome of a plane full of fuel flying into a building , but after visiting the site after watching the whole event live on tv and torturing myself every time it crops up again on tv , Im at a loss how it collapsed in such a controlled way , the site is relatively tiny and as for basically flying past the Statue of Liberty and sticking a finger in the air to it just before killing thousands ?
That said , how could a conspiracy on this scale be kept quiet , surely someone would say something somewhere along the line ?
So many what ifs and whys , we'll probably never know in our age the truth ?

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Post by thanatu55 » Wed May 16, 2018 11:52 pm

Paulwirral wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 10:32 pm That said , how could a conspiracy on this scale be kept quiet , surely someone would say something somewhere along the line ?
So many what ifs and whys , we'll probably never know in our age the truth ?
That's pretty much the problem, people are coming forward all the time but they're dismissed as fantasists abetting to conspiracy clap trap. Then people say 'how could it be kept quiet?'. It's not being kept quiet, it's just that those who speak out are ignored or accused of pursuing an anti- government agenda.

john-e89 wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 9:36 pm but don’t then have the sense to cover basic potential clues that will be investigated??
Well, yeah. The US government have changed their story time and time again to cover untied ends. Plus the well documented case of removing as much evidence (Steel etc) before any investigation taking place. All but a convenient terrorist passport that survived the burning jet fuel and pulverised steel and concrete.
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Post by john-e89 » Thu May 17, 2018 12:02 am

thanatu55 wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 11:52 pm
Paulwirral wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 10:32 pm That said , how could a conspiracy on this scale be kept quiet , surely someone would say something somewhere along the line ?
So many what ifs and whys , we'll probably never know in our age the truth ?
That's pretty much the problem, people are coming forward all the time but they're dismissed as fantasists abetting to conspiracy clap trap. Then people say 'how could it be kept quiet?'. It's not being kept quiet, it's just that those who speak out are ignored or accused of pursuing an anti- government agenda.
Wrong kind of quiet though thanatu, the kind of quiet that hundreds and hundreds of people would have to do if this was a staged actrocity. There is simply too much to do to carry this out without someone blabbing, getting cold feet, realising they’re about to murder thousands of people. It’s fantasy my friend.
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Post by Ducklakeview » Thu May 17, 2018 12:07 am

john-e89 wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:02 am
thanatu55 wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 11:52 pm
Paulwirral wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 10:32 pm That said , how could a conspiracy on this scale be kept quiet , surely someone would say something somewhere along the line ?
So many what ifs and whys , we'll probably never know in our age the truth ?
That's pretty much the problem, people are coming forward all the time but they're dismissed as fantasists abetting to conspiracy clap trap. Then people say 'how could it be kept quiet?'. It's not being kept quiet, it's just that those who speak out are ignored or accused of pursuing an anti- government agenda.
Wrong kind of quiet though thanatu, the kind of quiet that hundreds and hundreds of people would have to do if this was a staged actrocity. There is simply too much to do to carry this out without someone blabbing, getting cold feet, realising they’re about to murder thousands of people. It’s fantasy my friend.
Fantasy doesn't explain the pentagon, where a plane went through a hole somewhat smaller than it can actually fit through..

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Post by john-e89 » Thu May 17, 2018 12:11 am

Ducklakeview wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:07 am
john-e89 wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:02 am
thanatu55 wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 11:52 pm That's pretty much the problem, people are coming forward all the time but they're dismissed as fantasists abetting to conspiracy clap trap. Then people say 'how could it be kept quiet?'. It's not being kept quiet, it's just that those who speak out are ignored or accused of pursuing an anti- government agenda.
Wrong kind of quiet though thanatu, the kind of quiet that hundreds and hundreds of people would have to do if this was a staged actrocity. There is simply too much to do to carry this out without someone blabbing, getting cold feet, realising they’re about to murder thousands of people. It’s fantasy my friend.
Fantasy doesn't explain the pentagon, where a plane went through a hole somewhat smaller than it can actually fit through..

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No it doesn’t, that is a strange one certainly.
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Post by thanatu55 » Thu May 17, 2018 12:16 am

Nobody is going to change their mind on this subject as their beliefs are deep routed over the years so I wont attempt to try. I don't pretend to know exactly what happened, but I believe and always will that we don't know the entire truth of the event and nobody is going to come forward and confess to any responsibility at this stage. Just as 'Al-Quaeda' ( Which didn't exist ) and Bin Laden never claimed responsibility either. Strange for a terrorist organisation intent on spreading their message and successfully showing the West what for...
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Post by john-e89 » Thu May 17, 2018 12:19 am

The demolition theory of the towers is just ridiculous imo. Notwithstanding the people that would have to carry it out, you’d also need 4 pilots happy to commit mass murder and his/her own suicide, and also to fly to the exact spot where these supposed explosions were set, plus there were no huge explosions on all sides of the towers which would have been seen on a demolition job. The towers dropped from the top down so how could explosions be placed in the basements? Doesn’t stack up, plus the report I posted on page 5 here explains the clips that would have failed in the fire.
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Post by john-e89 » Thu May 17, 2018 12:23 am

thanatu55 wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:16 am Nobody is going to change their mind on this subject as their beliefs are deep routed over the years so I wont attempt to try. I don't pretend to know exactly what happened, but I believe and always will that we don't know the entire truth of the event and nobody is going to come forward and confess to any responsibility at this stage. Just as 'Al-Quaeda' ( Which didn't exist ) and Bin Laden never claimed responsibility either. Strange for a terrorist organisation intent on spreading their message and successfully showing the West what for...
Suited him better to deny involment and let the west argue like is happening and perhaps bring ex presidents and soooooo many others down and cause as much chaos as possible.

But as you say we all have our beliefs. Each to their own obviously. :cheers: :thumbsup:
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Post by thanatu55 » Thu May 17, 2018 12:34 am

john-e89 wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:23 am
thanatu55 wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:16 am Nobody is going to change their mind on this subject as their beliefs are deep routed over the years so I wont attempt to try. I don't pretend to know exactly what happened, but I believe and always will that we don't know the entire truth of the event and nobody is going to come forward and confess to any responsibility at this stage. Just as 'Al-Quaeda' ( Which didn't exist ) and Bin Laden never claimed responsibility either. Strange for a terrorist organisation intent on spreading their message and successfully showing the West what for...
Suited him better to deny involment and let the west argue like is happening and perhaps bring ex presidents and soooooo many others down and cause as much chaos as possible.

But as you say we all have our beliefs. Each to their own obviously. :cheers: :thumbsup:
:cheers: :lol:
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