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Post by BRC » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:44 am

Often wondered about the possibility of calling into a garage and instead of gassing up simply exchange a battery pack for a fully charged unit. I'm sure this could be viable if the motor manufactures were to cooperate and offer a common or at least a limited number of battery designs.
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Post by Ducklakeview » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:46 am

NEver mind that, what about this new Toyota Mirai?? A production Hydrogen fuel cell car...

I want one, just for the technology!

https://ssl.toyota.com/mirai/index.html

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Post by ranski » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:02 pm

mmm-five wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:34 am
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In 29 years the fuel price has gone up from 36p/l to 116/l - 80p or 222% increase.

In 29 years, my average wage have gone up from £60/week to £600/week - so a £540 or 900% increase.

I won't worry...as long as my pay increases at the same rate for the next 29 years :P
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Post by Ethicsgradient » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:40 pm

If everyone else goes leccy , all those strange people that worry about MPG and their childrens lungs and stuff and petrol becomes less popular ..less popular things get cheaper ... usually..mmmmm wishful thinking the natural soprofic of the optomist :D

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Post by Paulr » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:23 pm

BRC wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:44 am Often wondered about the possibility of calling into a garage and instead of gassing up simply exchange a battery pack for a fully charged unit. I'm sure this could be viable if the motor manufactures were to cooperate and offer a common or at least a limited number of battery designs.
There are Tesla models, and Renault Zoe's you can do that with now, but it is the infrastructure that lets it down again.
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Post by LordOxygen » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:39 pm

I'd happily commute up and down the M40 in an electric car, as it stands I take zero enjoyment from driving my auto dirty diesel saloon 19K miles to work and back each year. If the numbers stack up with the new Tesla 3 (which I doubt they will tbh) I'll go for it.
Big engine petrol cars will become weekend toys, which is all my Zed is anyway so no big issue at a personal level.

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Post by rooha » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:42 pm

personally i think its great to hope that there is a generation to come that will look back and see that their elders have tried to leave the planet in a better state than they found it. rather than mine and the one below me who look to our elders and wonder how they could have selfishly screwed it up so much.

whether or not the subject of this thread will be part of that broad view I dont know but i like to dream ....

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Post by ronk » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:57 pm

The undisputed low running costs of Electric cars are only one side of the environmental considerations - look at where the materials come from, how they are extracted, transported and processed.
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Post by rooha » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:11 pm

ronk wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:57 pm The undisputed low running costs of Electric cars are only one side of the environmental considerations - look at where the materials come from, how they are extracted, transported and processed.
as i see it
option 1 - make a sh***y electric car, refine the technology, make a better car every generation,improve recharging infrastructure etc ie 'git gud'

option 2- keep building internal combustion engines and burning a what is essentially a finite resource (bio-diesel etc not-withstanding).

take yer pick ....... :wink:

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Post by ronk » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:28 pm

Here we are discussing environmental issues while driving uneconomical and basically impractical cars!

I don't think I will be dumping my Satans Chariot just yet! However my next vehicle might just be all electric at my age and I will become another scourge of the pavements and Tesco's food hall!
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Post by craig3.2 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:28 pm

mmm-five wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:34 am
ranski wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:50 am Image
In 29 years the fuel price has gone up from 36p/l to 116/l - 80p or 222% increase.

In 29 years, my average wage have gone up from £60/week to £600/week - so a £540 or 900% increase.

I won't worry...as long as my pay increases at the same rate for the next 29 years :P
Haha,too true,Tony.
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Post by TitanTim » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:38 pm

I wonder what I'll be driving in 29 years time :?

A mobility scooter :o

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Post by dans6490 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:50 pm

Only a small issue I guess but one concern of mine is how quiet electric cars are in regards to pedestrians.

I walk my daughter to school and the old "look and listen'' when crossing the road is now just "look".

We went to cross the road a few weeks ago and an electric car literally appeared out of nowhere, at speed and totally silent. It was a weird experience and so alien as a pedestrian.

If you have your back to traffic with conventional cars, you can still hear danger, even if you can't see it. With electric cars, if you can't see them, you have no idea what they're doing. I can definitely see this being an issue for pedestrians, especially in the future when all/most cars are electric.

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Post by Zed Five » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:59 am

I think it's still a current physical impossibility for any car to appear out of nowhere. You just did not hear it. :D
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Post by ronk » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:45 am

TitanTim wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:38 pm I wonder what I'll be driving in 29 years time :?
I just hope I'm still here in 29 years time!
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