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Post by RedUn » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:36 pm

Alls I picked up from this is Byron needs some buckets and a short shifter? :thumbsup: :evil:
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Post by Beedub » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:45 pm

RedUn wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:36 pm Alls I picked up from this is Byron needs some buckets and a short shifter? :thumbsup: :evil:
lol! Working on it!

This looks like a great package, wonder how much it costs :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Every single area has been addressed and turned up.... Now this is how this car should have came. 430hp N/A. perfecto. Interesting how the owner of the car and of numerous GT cars noted the stock GT4 as the Least feeling GT car he's owned leaving lots on the table for modifications!

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Post by wantaz4m » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:52 pm

what a great post beedub, really enjoyed reading it. Makes me feel better not buying a gt4, as have been lusting for one for ages!

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Post by Beedub » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:33 am

wantaz4m wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:52 pm what a great post beedub, really enjoyed reading it. Makes me feel better not buying a gt4, as have been lusting for one for ages!
go and have a drive in one if you get chance!
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Post by pHilli0 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:06 pm

Beedub wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:27 pm
BMWZ4MC wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:57 pm Byron, all I can hear you saying is that you're going to add forced induction of some kind when you buy your GT4 :evil:
Very interesting thread and a great write up. I think the Z4M can still hold it's own in much more expensive company, especially when properly fettled.
no way buddy.... imagine buying one if these at 80k then spending a fortune tuning Porsches notoriously chocolate engines...... this dream ended after a proper drive.... lovely car but after such a highly modded car it didn't offer higher thrills I'd hoped infact it felt tame!! . a gt3 would but, unfortunately I'm no longer in the position to buy one like a once was. Today modifying a z4m to this level again is now not really viable either in reality , the engine mods are knocking on 10k with all the bells and whistles and today's exchange rate factored in, when you consider the cars value today, you'd be spending the cars value and then some in mods.... wheres the sense in that unless you keep for many many years to realise your money spend in "fun".
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Post by Franzino » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:25 pm

FD3S wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:18 pm Nice to know that with some 17000 mods on our beautiful cars, you can save 85.000 and avoid buying a P car.. :D
If I need to guess; the total money that went into Beedub Z4M (with the car + all the mods) can be around 55.000...?

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Post by BMWZ4MC » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:55 pm

I had a poke around a blue GT4 yesterday, it’s a really impressive looking car. I must take one for a test drive soon :driving:
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Post by Franzino » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:34 pm

pHilli0 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:06 pm I have almost spent what I paid for my MC in mods. Transformational. Essential.
I also spend a decent amount of cash on my Z4m to make it the way I like it...and to make it preform on track. If we would have bought the Z4M new and also did al the mods to it...then we are closer to the value of a GT4 then you think. The big upside of a GT4 is that is so great straight from the factory...

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Post by Beedub » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:37 am

BMWZ4MC wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:55 pm I had a poke around a blue GT4 yesterday, it’s a really impressive looking car. I must take one for a test drive soon :driving:

Let me no...!! really interested in your feedback!
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Post by Wondermike » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:45 pm

Beedub, Franzino, I've tidied up some of the posts :thumbsup:

I wouldn't touch a GT4 until Porsche sort out the ridiculous gearing which for road use is crazy. Not that I can afford one anyway :cry:

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Post by Franzino » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:59 pm

Wondermike wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:45 pm Beedub, Franzino, I've tidied up some of the posts :thumbsup:

I wouldn't touch a GT4 until Porsche sort out the ridiculous gearing which for road use is crazy. Not that I can afford one anyway :cry:
Thanks :thumbsup:

Indeed…for the time being the used GT4’s are to expensive…when they are hitting like 70 - 75.000 GBP they will be a lot more interesting then now (and I expect they will drop in price after the launch of the 2018 GT4RS / GT4 in Geneva). I can not afford the money for a 991 GT3, but a GT4 in the 75K area is something I could do…but then I will need to sell my Z4M…to make room for the GT4 and also make the financial input for a "second' car a little less (my main car is still the M2). Don’t know if I’m ready to do this and that the GT4 will make me forget my Z4M or that it is a big step forward from my Z4M (it needs to be for this extra money). When reading/watching those reviews of EVO, Chris Harris, CarFection…I have the impression the GT4 is a great car (I would use it 50% track / 50% road). I’m happy someone posted this Z4M vs GT4 topic. In the spring of 2018 I’m going to rent a GT4 for a full day (you can rent them in my country) and then I will make my decision…..and it will also depend on the used price and how much I want to spend. The used price has to be a lot lower then a new GT4 or it makes no sense of buying a used one (which has issues concerning the reliability of the transmission). My biggest question is indeed the long gearing and the 3the gear issue.....spring 2018 will bring a lot of answers. But for me it is obvious; if I ever sell my Z4M the only car that can replace it is a Porsche from the GT department (GT4, GT3, GT2 ;) )

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Post by Beedub » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:19 pm

Wondermike wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:45 pm Beedub, Franzino, I've tidied up some of the posts :thumbsup:

I wouldn't touch a GT4 until Porsche sort out the ridiculous gearing which for road use is crazy. Not that I can afford one anyway :cry:
thank you ;-)

the gearing on the cayman was actually weird.... their are places id need to use first at these sprint tracks i go to. i actually have no idea why they did that!!! you've got to drive one to understand how odd the gearing actually is... second goes on foreeeevvverrr and because the car isnt that powerful it actually makes it feel slower than it is!
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Post by Wondermike » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:34 pm

Yeah I read the road test at the time, second gear good for 82mph, third gear 114mph. The fun is taking the car to the redline and changing up, so practically you've only got one gear (second) to do that in.

All-day rental sounds good though Franzino, plenty opportunity to try it out. I think I'd rather have an M2 and the cash TBH.

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Post by FD3S » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:24 pm

Franzino wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:25 pm
FD3S wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:18 pm Nice to know that with some 17000 mods on our beautiful cars, you can save 85.000 and avoid buying a P car.. :D
If I need to guess; the total money that went into Beedub Z4M (with the car + all the mods) can be around 55.000...?
Hello Franzino. Sorry I don't know exactly what Beedub's car extra has.

I have calculated that you will need to improve significantly the Z4M, roughly the following:
Wheels - 1500
ESS SC - 7000
BBK - 5000
SUSPENSION - 2-3000

Total: 16.550 to 17.550 . Do I miss something important?

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Post by Beedub » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:33 am

TBH Their is quite abit missing from that list FD3S.
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