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Post by Beedub » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:52 pm

if i had a lift i would do 90% of my own work no doubt.
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Post by Machine monkey » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:59 pm

Beedub wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:52 pm if i had a lift i would do 90% of my own work no doubt.
See you would save a fortune... Man maths at its best buddy: thumbsup:
A guy who lives opposite me. Has a really cool mini 2 post in his single garage only lifts the car 4 feet up. He has a chair on wheels that he wizzes around on. He owns a TVR so i think it’s a necessity to have a 2 post. :rofl:
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Post by bradz » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:36 pm

Thanks guys,

Final drive... I considered it, But decided against for the time being as I'm not sure if it will stay NA....

Garage wise... I have honestly not struggled the back of the car is about 2.5ft off the ground and I have about 2ft each side. once the wheels are off everything is from underneath... And it has a radiator to keep me warm!

I have looked at a few lifts but none of them really tick all the boxes... most of the smaller ones block access to the gearbox...

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Post by bradz » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:13 pm

KW V3's arrived today!

Superb build quality! cant wait to get them on! Think I'm going to get the clubsport top mounts though.
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Post by TomK » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:32 pm

bradz wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:13 pm KW V3's arrived today!

Superb build quality! cant wait to get them on! Think I'm going to get the clubsport top mounts though.
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Post by bmwaddict » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:47 pm

bradz wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:13 pm KW V3's arrived today!

Superb build quality! cant wait to get them on! Think I'm going to get the clubsport top mounts though.
Nice! Are the drop links KW? Did they come with the kit?
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Post by john-e89 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:48 pm

Impressive stuff Bradz.

What made you go for the KW V3’s over, say, ACS RS kit? Was it just cost? Do you have any idea of the rear spring poundage of the KW’s? Or if not any idea if they’re softer than OEM rear springs?

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Post by bradz » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:18 pm

bmwaddict wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:47 pm
bradz wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:13 pm KW V3's arrived today!

Superb build quality! cant wait to get them on! Think I'm going to get the clubsport top mounts though.
Nice! Are the drop links KW? Did they come with the kit?
They came with them.
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Post by bradz » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:34 pm

john-e89 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:48 pm Impressive stuff Bradz.

What made you go for the KW V3’s over, say, ACS RS kit? Was it just cost? Do you have any idea of the rear spring poundage of the KW’s? Or if not any idea if they’re softer than OEM rear springs?

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The main reason is because I have had 4 sets previously (Fabia VRS e30 325i, e36 m3,) and I rated them highly, KW like to say they are firm without making the car horrible on the road - I cant disagree with that, I have never had a failure, They are highly regarded within the BMW/Z4 community.

Money wasn't a huge player in the choice to be honest, It was a bonus that Awesome GTI had £300 off the V3's though..

If I'm honest I have no idea what the spring rate is... I'll see if I can find it.
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Post by Beedub » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:35 pm

i personally wouldn't bother with the CS top mounts, just run come camber shims.

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Post by TomK » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:48 pm

Beedub wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:35 pm i personally wouldn't bother with the CS top mounts, just run come camber shims.

Great high end coilover kit buddy, expensive but the will transform the car!
Yeah that's the thing with the adjustable mounts... You'd want them to knock the camber back to more road friendly levels sometimes, but then you get all the NVH increase of having the solid mounts :( You can't win.
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Post by bradz » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:51 pm

Where do you shim them? I didn't know it was possible. I was talking to a chap today who made the holes bigger to get the 2deg of neg! :?

I'm already running maximum neg camber on a stock top mount but I could do with another 1/2-1 degree.
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Post by TomK » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:00 pm

This, but you can do it yourself http://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspension-S ... Kit_2.html
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Post by Beedub » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:23 pm

bradz wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:51 pm Where do you shim them? I didn't know it was possible. I was talking to a chap today who made the holes bigger to get the 2deg of neg! :?

I'm already running maximum neg camber on a stock top mount but I could do with another 1/2-1 degree.
literally as above, longer bolts and stack 3 washers, you'll get another degree and quarter easily....

i run -2.7 with the billet top mounts and a combo of the shims i do it this way, because the window in the strut top is so small that the camber plates aren't that usable without pulling the damper anyway, which is still abit of a pain considering how easy it should be with plates and the solid top end, they do however offer lots of range if you willing to do the above and you can also alter the caster too , offers GREAT feedback but the NVH is increased by quite some margin. I love the feel of it all , the sounds and the general purpose but it would drive me nuts on a car i used more.

And this firewall braces appear to transmit all the added NVH right into the cabin, it feels very race car!!!
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Post by TomK » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:30 pm

Beedub wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:23 pm i run -2.7 with the billet top mounts and a combo of the shims i do it this way, because the window in the strut top is so small that the camber plates aren't that usable without pulling the damper anyway, which is still abit of a pain considering how easy it should be with plates and the solid top end,
The correct solution for that problem, but it's a bit severe.
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We also have welding-plates which you can weld in the domes of the vehicle.
You have then to cut off the original domes and replace it by the thicker (5mm thick) welding plates. Because these plates are flat, you get more adjustment range for the camber and caster. Also, the car is a lot stronger and prevents the domes from tearing.
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