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- DLT222
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Went to see this today...
Thought I would spare anyone the trip on phone convo with them.
Issues noted within 2 mins of looking:
Rust showing above the drivers tail light and looks badly touched in
Huge rust spot on the underside of the boot in the corners
Repainted front drivers wing
Repainted rear quarters
Repainted rear bumper
In all not a nice car for 20k I'm sorry to say. Only went as it was close to me.
Thought I would spare anyone the trip on phone convo with them.
Issues noted within 2 mins of looking:
Rust showing above the drivers tail light and looks badly touched in
Huge rust spot on the underside of the boot in the corners
Repainted front drivers wing
Repainted rear quarters
Repainted rear bumper
In all not a nice car for 20k I'm sorry to say. Only went as it was close to me.
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Was it badly repainted? Not necessarily a negative if done well
Piano black & black extended leather. Power mirrors, tinted glass, PDC, Prof hi-fi, CD, retro-fit cruise
- DLT222
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It was not great. Back bumper had several dust spots in the paint. Rear qtrs had rough edges.
A garage of this size could at least fill the washer bottle before putting it on sale too! The little things in my eyes.
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Totally agree about the little things. One thing that always catches my eye is when plastic centre caps have been replaced by chrome ones.
Piano black & black extended leather. Power mirrors, tinted glass, PDC, Prof hi-fi, CD, retro-fit cruise
- DLT222
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Yep - Im a car detailer by trade so I don't miss a trick normally.
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As for the rust, that should still be rectifiable by BMW under warranty shouldn't it? If so, might be a good bargaining tool to the get the price down on something that you can get fixed for free
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- Yorkie Z
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That's pretty crap for a 20 grand car!! Did you take it for a spin just for the fun of it?DLT222 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:48 pm Went to see this today...
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Thought I would spare anyone the trip on phone convo with them.
Issues noted within 2 mins of looking:
Rust showing above the drivers tail light and looks badly touched in
Huge rust spot on the underside of the boot in the corners
Repainted front drivers wing
Repainted rear quarters
Repainted rear bumper
In all not a nice car for 20k I'm sorry to say. Only went as it was close to me.
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- DLT222
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No, its 10 year body warranty if I remember correctly, plus it has to have had all the checks at BMW to maintain the corrosion warranty I think.
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No, it would have been pointless plus it was jammed in a showroom.Yorkie Z wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:25 pmThat's pretty crap for a 20 grand car!! Did you take it for a spin just for the fun of it?DLT222 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:48 pm Went to see this today...
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Thought I would spare anyone the trip on phone convo with them.
Issues noted within 2 mins of looking:
Rust showing above the drivers tail light and looks badly touched in
Huge rust spot on the underside of the boot in the corners
Repainted front drivers wing
Repainted rear quarters
Repainted rear bumper
In all not a nice car for 20k I'm sorry to say. Only went as it was close to me.
Omega Speedmaster collector, finder, buyer & seller.
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12 year corrosion warranty.
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All traders have the ear to the ground on what's the "next big thing" and Z4M's have been a good buy for a while
£20k shitters that's had loads of paint not included ..
God loves a trier, and car traders are his favourite
£20k shitters that's had loads of paint not included ..
God loves a trier, and car traders are his favourite
- tomscott
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Hi Guys,
So I was very close to pulling the trigger on this.
http://www.coupesandconvertibles.co.uk/ ... v12942546/
Pretty lovely,exactly what I wanted specced to the nines apart from extended leather.
Unfortunately as soon as I got to the service book things took a downward turn.
Registered 20-3-08 John Clark Aberdeen
1200 Running in service: John Clark 14-9-09 8889 miles 18 months later
No date: Eastern inspection I 25467
20-6-14 - Inspection I - Neil Garner Performance 39108
23-9-16 - Inspection II - Neil Garner Performance 51173
Its a pretty hard sell at £23250
It also looks like it needs some work, the calliper's are an absolute state and apparently the discs and pads were done all round last service. Its done 4500 miles since then and the brakes look a bit pitted to me.
It also has CSL reps, some may not see a negative here but I would like the 224s for originality and the reps aren't for me.
The interior is also warn, steering wheel looks very shiny and so does the gear knob. Rest of the interior looks I good shape. The exhaust on the driver side is also hanging needs adjustment.
Its also had two insp Isin a row but there is no paperwork that valve clearances have been done on the INS II
So with the running in service being done at 8989 miles that was it for me. 150-200 miles either side fair enough but 7500 miles is ridiculous. Really disappointed I thought the price was a touch high and would have settled for £22k but not sure what the value of a car with service history like that is worth. Someone without knowledge will probably buy it.
Funny thing is the dealer is partnered with Z Cars Racing don't know what that says about them really.
Its also the third most expensive currently for sale and comes with a 3 month Warranty wise warranty which isn't worth the paper its written on for these type of cars.
What do others think?
So I was very close to pulling the trigger on this.
http://www.coupesandconvertibles.co.uk/ ... v12942546/
Pretty lovely,exactly what I wanted specced to the nines apart from extended leather.
Unfortunately as soon as I got to the service book things took a downward turn.
Registered 20-3-08 John Clark Aberdeen
1200 Running in service: John Clark 14-9-09 8889 miles 18 months later
No date: Eastern inspection I 25467
20-6-14 - Inspection I - Neil Garner Performance 39108
23-9-16 - Inspection II - Neil Garner Performance 51173
Its a pretty hard sell at £23250
It also looks like it needs some work, the calliper's are an absolute state and apparently the discs and pads were done all round last service. Its done 4500 miles since then and the brakes look a bit pitted to me.
It also has CSL reps, some may not see a negative here but I would like the 224s for originality and the reps aren't for me.
The interior is also warn, steering wheel looks very shiny and so does the gear knob. Rest of the interior looks I good shape. The exhaust on the driver side is also hanging needs adjustment.
Its also had two insp Isin a row but there is no paperwork that valve clearances have been done on the INS II
So with the running in service being done at 8989 miles that was it for me. 150-200 miles either side fair enough but 7500 miles is ridiculous. Really disappointed I thought the price was a touch high and would have settled for £22k but not sure what the value of a car with service history like that is worth. Someone without knowledge will probably buy it.
Funny thing is the dealer is partnered with Z Cars Racing don't know what that says about them really.
Its also the third most expensive currently for sale and comes with a 3 month Warranty wise warranty which isn't worth the paper its written on for these type of cars.
What do others think?
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55k for £22k You weren't seriously going to hand that over with the market heading south were you Tom
Makes the current crop of 30-50k Mroadies on forum around £15k look complete bargains .
Makes the current crop of 30-50k Mroadies on forum around £15k look complete bargains .
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Sadly Z Cars Racing, or rather Gary Feakins Racing who was behind this is no longer trading. It turns out he is/was quite a crook and I for one was taken in by him. There are now several claims against Gary including assault and possible debts amounting to £150,000 at a rough count
I should add that their is no connection to Neil Garner or MSVR.
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- Lifer
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£23 and a quarter.... ?
I wouldnt want £20k in that personally...
I think if it had £2000 spent to get it somewhere close to a nice car then a £19,950 ask would be achievable..
I wouldnt want £20k in that personally...
I think if it had £2000 spent to get it somewhere close to a nice car then a £19,950 ask would be achievable..