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Post by Ewazix » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:13 pm

Z4M-2006 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:58 pm Needs more details...

Is history all BMW and impeccable ?
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I would suggest that its worth what you paid for it ??? Its only been months and prices havent really changed apart from the normal seasonal swings.
I can't see that a private sale valuation can be the same as from a specialist dealer who has to cover legally enforceable protections, business costs and a bit of profit, Vs none of that in a private sale.
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:16 pm

Its still got warranty.......

Thats all a dealer is offering over a private sale...

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Post by Ewazix » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:35 pm

Z4M-2006 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:16 pm Its still got warranty.......

Thats all a dealer is offering over a private sale...
Not really, you have additional consumer rights including potentially a refund in certain circumstances and comeback if it's described incorrectly or not fit for purposes. Are you suggesting every single professional and consumer price guide is wrong and that retail and private sale prices are the same? Bottom line is you pay a premium from a dealer.
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:37 pm

Are you suggesting that if you buy off a dealer you cant sell the car for more money than you paid or the same amount ?

You MUST sell for less ?

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Post by Ewazix » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:53 am

Z4M-2006 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:37 pm Are you suggesting that if you buy off a dealer you cant sell the car for more money than you paid or the same amount ?

You MUST sell for less ?
I suppose there's really only one valuation that matters, what someone will actually pay :)
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Post by Yorkie Z » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:51 am

Mike. wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:43 pm Sadly a secondment opportunity has come up with work and I’m not fancying storing a car for two years, nor do I have the ability to just let someone look after my E86 M so I’m thinking I may need to sell!

I’ve only had the car since June, purchased from a BMW Specialist and still covered with warranty which I upgraded at the time of sale as the car was supposed to be a keeper!

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Any indications on a ballpark value as a private sale based on the current market?
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Post by Beedub » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:31 pm

how about some pics mike, sounds like a beaut!!
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Post by Angelus666 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:17 pm

Looking across the market it should be listed over £20k, it'll be competing with this...https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... hp/6928544

...so if you price within a grand you'll be at the right point...also don't listen to what some will say on here that you MUST reduce the price by £800 because it needs an Ins II in 6k miles...that's a running cost for next year for the new owner.

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Post by mr wilks » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:28 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:17 pm Looking across the market it should be listed over £20k, it'll be competing with this...https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... hp/6928544

...so if you price within a grand you'll be at the right point...also don't listen to what some will say on here that you MUST reduce the price by £800 because it needs an Ins II in 6k miles...that's a running cost for next year for the new owner.
I don't disagree ( or agree ) with your valuation but anyone actively looking with the least bit of knowledge will either look elsewhere
or want a lump more than £800 off the ask . Buyers don't like negatives & however way you pitch it a potential big bill looms large
Personally i would suck it up , have it done & sell with zero spend required as i assume the actual time till it needs doing is stretching the service interval to the max point :(
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Post by original guvnor » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:01 pm

mr wilks wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:28 pm
Angelus666 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:17 pm Looking across the market it should be listed over £20k, it'll be competing with this...https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... hp/6928544

...so if you price within a grand you'll be at the right point...also don't listen to what some will say on here that you MUST reduce the price by £800 because it needs an Ins II in 6k miles...that's a running cost for next year for the new owner.
I don't disagree ( or agree ) with your valuation but anyone actively looking with the least bit of knowledge will either look elsewhere
or want a lump more than £800 off the ask . Buyers don't like negatives & however way you pitch it a potential big bill looms large
Personally i would suck it up , have it done & sell with zero spend required as i assume the actual time till it needs doing is stretching the service interval to the max point :(
I agree to an extent, but if mine was 6k miles away from needing an I2 and a buyer wanted the full cost off the car because of that they'd politely be told where to go. Maybe a couple of hundred quid but nothing more.

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Post by mr wilks » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:10 pm

original guvnor wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:01 pm
mr wilks wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:28 pm
Angelus666 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:17 pm Looking across the market it should be listed over £20k, it'll be competing with this...https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... hp/6928544

...so if you price within a grand you'll be at the right point...also don't listen to what some will say on here that you MUST reduce the price by £800 because it needs an Ins II in 6k miles...that's a running cost for next year for the new owner.
I don't disagree ( or agree ) with your valuation but anyone actively looking with the least bit of knowledge will either look elsewhere
or want a lump more than £800 off the ask . Buyers don't like negatives & however way you pitch it a potential big bill looms large
Personally i would suck it up , have it done & sell with zero spend required as i assume the actual time till it needs doing is stretching the service interval to the max point :(
I agree to an extent, but if mine was 6k miles away from needing an I2 and a buyer wanted the full cost off the car because of that they'd politely be told where to go. Maybe a couple of hundred quid but nothing more.
Totally get your stance OG but we aren't talking a 10 yr old 320d :( £20k car's attract particular buyers & i accept its jmo but if i wanted a top return then i would do my best in presenting a car that required zero spend or offer it at a reflective ask ? I don't think as a seller you can have it both ways :?
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Post by original guvnor » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:46 pm

Yes I can see your point and I would do too Mr W. I suppose that's where the negotiation begins! One person's priced accordingly is another's over-priced :thumbsup:

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Post by Lower » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:15 pm

original guvnor wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:01 pm
mr wilks wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:28 pm
Angelus666 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:17 pm Looking across the market it should be listed over £20k, it'll be competing with this...https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... hp/6928544

...so if you price within a grand you'll be at the right point...also don't listen to what some will say on here that you MUST reduce the price by £800 because it needs an Ins II in 6k miles...that's a running cost for next year for the new owner.
I don't disagree ( or agree ) with your valuation but anyone actively looking with the least bit of knowledge will either look elsewhere
or want a lump more than £800 off the ask . Buyers don't like negatives & however way you pitch it a potential big bill looms large
Personally i would suck it up , have it done & sell with zero spend required as i assume the actual time till it needs doing is stretching the service interval to the max point :(
I agree to an extent, but if mine was 6k miles away from needing an I2 and a buyer wanted the full cost off the car because of that they'd politely be told where to go. Maybe a couple of hundred quid but nothing more.
Couldn't agree more.

All cars need servicing. It's a running cost. If the car is 500 miles away from its next inspection 2 it's a negotiating point, but not if it's 6k miles away.
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Post by mr wilks » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:09 am

Lower wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:15 pm
original guvnor wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:01 pm
mr wilks wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:28 pm

I don't disagree ( or agree ) with your valuation but anyone actively looking with the least bit of knowledge will either look elsewhere
or want a lump more than £800 off the ask . Buyers don't like negatives & however way you pitch it a potential big bill looms large
Personally i would suck it up , have it done & sell with zero spend required as i assume the actual time till it needs doing is stretching the service interval to the max point :(
I agree to an extent, but if mine was 6k miles away from needing an I2 and a buyer wanted the full cost off the car because of that they'd politely be told where to go. Maybe a couple of hundred quid but nothing more.
Couldn't agree more.

All cars need servicing. It's a running cost. If the car is 500 miles away from its next inspection 2 it's a negotiating point, but not if it's 6k miles away.
So you think a 10yr old s54 is ok having its first Ins2 at 59k ? :? I don't :( & would wager 99% of them had been done by 50k let alone 60k ( that's assuming it isn't due its second ins 2 of course ) :wink:
My point is if you want top dollars you need to present a perfect example that leaves potential buyers with zero room for knocking it
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Post by Lower » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:10 pm

mr wilks wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:09 am
Lower wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:15 pm
original guvnor wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:01 pm

I agree to an extent, but if mine was 6k miles away from needing an I2 and a buyer wanted the full cost off the car because of that they'd politely be told where to go. Maybe a couple of hundred quid but nothing more.
Couldn't agree more.

All cars need servicing. It's a running cost. If the car is 500 miles away from its next inspection 2 it's a negotiating point, but not if it's 6k miles away.
So you think a 10yr old s54 is ok having its first Ins2 at 59k ? :? I don't :( & would wager 99% of them had been done by 50k let alone 60k ( that's assuming it isn't due its second ins 2 of course ) :wink:
My point is if you want top dollars you need to present a perfect example that leaves potential buyers with zero room for knocking it
To be honest, the thought of whether it was due its inspection 2 at that mileage didn't even cross my mind.

I was only considering whether distant routine maintenance should be accepted as a reason to reduce a car's sale price.
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