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Post by mr wilks » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:41 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:29 pm https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... d=1&pid=14

Not sure if this is a forum car? Thought on the interior? I've been thinking on getting my seats re-done in amerone, but not sure it looks quite right here.....would probably go a Merlot Red colour. Anyway, £17k-ish for a full BMW SH, fully specced and loaded MC seems good value.
Ambitious ask right now for 94k car
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Post by Angelus666 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:31 pm

mr wilks wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:41 pm
Angelus666 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:29 pm https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... d=1&pid=14

Not sure if this is a forum car? Thought on the interior? I've been thinking on getting my seats re-done in amerone, but not sure it looks quite right here.....would probably go a Merlot Red colour. Anyway, £17k-ish for a full BMW SH, fully specced and loaded MC seems good value.
Ambitious ask right now for 94k car
Cheapest on pistonheads by some margin....what do you think it should be selling for then?!

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Post by Muckinonthesofa » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:39 pm

I love Amerone. :thumbsup:
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Post by mr wilks » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:54 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:31 pm
mr wilks wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:41 pm
Angelus666 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:29 pm https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... d=1&pid=14

Not sure if this is a forum car? Thought on the interior? I've been thinking on getting my seats re-done in amerone, but not sure it looks quite right here.....would probably go a Merlot Red colour. Anyway, £17k-ish for a full BMW SH, fully specced and loaded MC seems good value.
Ambitious ask right now for 94k car
Cheapest on pistonheads by some margin....what do you think it should be selling for then?!
Its at £17991 & little to suggest you will get much off that from the dealer & wary from the off with zero mention whatsoever of the service regime to get to 94k .
Right now after a spell of declining prices , a looming interest rate rise & the winter months ahead i think £16k for that car could still leave your trousers warming your ankles :cry:
PH isn't the only place to trade ZMs & alternatives are there if you look , as in 10k less on the clock private sale that would most likely be driven away for £15k & maybe even a touch less :wink:

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Post by Z4M-2006 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:18 pm

Much prefer this Z4MC...About the right money too

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... Z4M&page=1

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Post by mr wilks » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:25 pm

Z4M-2006 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:18 pm Much prefer this Z4MC...About the right money too

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... Z4M&page=1
That's the one i linked :wink: :oops: :P right money for what appears a genuine motor
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Post by Z4M-2006 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:27 pm

Didnt spot the link..... :rofl:

There is no way i would be over £17k on a car approaching 100k in miles....

I bet you could put another £2000 into it to get it ship shape..

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Post by Angelus666 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:03 pm

This forum is very strange at times. We really do a bad job of talking up the value of our cars. To think you can get a Z4MC for nearly £15k in 2017 is an amazing bargain compared to what other cars are going for. A 2009 C2S 911 is still £42k+, even a Cayman is another £20k+ for a good one.

I do wonder why is the Z4MC valued so highly in certain parts of the world, but relatively low here....?

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Post by mr wilks » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:25 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:03 pm This forum is very strange at times. We really do a bad job of talking up the value of our cars. To think you can get a Z4MC for nearly £15k in 2017 is an amazing bargain compared to what other cars are going for. A 2009 C2S 911 is still £42k+, even a Cayman is another £20k+ for a good one.

I do wonder why is the Z4MC valued so highly in certain parts of the world, but relatively low here....?
Simple market forces , its not about talking them up or down on here .
The parallel's drawn with a 2009 C2S 911 isn't really relevant in my eyes , it actually answers your own question to a certain extent :?
If they were similarly priced i suspect a majority would want the Porsche , i know i would :D
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Post by Angelus666 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:20 pm

Not suggesting they should be similarly priced, the Porsche is probably the better car in most ways, but not £25-30k used car money better. At £15k the Z4MC is an absolute bargain of a car really....ticks a lot of boxes that most sub £25k cars don't..! I would have thought the Drive video would have pushed the car up in the UK, but it seems to have dipped since then, whereas other markets have seen big jumps in the price of these cars. :?

It's very strange why the Z3MC is twice, even 3 times the cost of the Z4MC at the moment.

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Post by Buckz » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:24 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:20 pm Not suggesting they should be similarly priced, the Porsche is probably the better car in most ways, but not £25-30k used car money better. At £15k the Z4MC is an absolute bargain of a car really....ticks a lot of boxes that most sub £25k cars don't..! I would have thought the Drive video would have pushed the car up in the UK, but it seems to have dipped since then, whereas other markets have seen big jumps in the price of these cars. :?

It's very strange why the Z3MC is twice, even 3 times the cost of the Z4MC at the moment.
it's not though is it?

z4m is still quite "modern" to be a classic car..

z3mc is rare and much rarer than z4m, both coupe and roadster form.

the porsche was/is and will be a more "premium" sports car brand than BMW so by default values will be higher.. its not that complicated.
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Post by TomK » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pm

Buckz wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:24 pm
z3mc is rare and much rarer than z4m, both coupe and roadster form.
Actually I'm pretty sure that's not the case, at least in terms of the coupe there were more rhd breadvans made than Z4M coupes.
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Post by mr wilks » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:49 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:20 pm At £15k the Z4MC is an absolute bargain of a car really....ticks a lot of boxes that most sub £25k cars don't..

It's very strange why the Z3MC is twice, even 3 times the cost of the Z4MC at the moment.
Have to agree , MC or MR offers such a lot for relatively little but if they were double the money ? ? :?
As for the Z3MC :roll: that is one car i really do not get at all :cry: ive never appreciated the styling & interior is "quirky" to say the least , , fortunately for me the values are irrelevant so no matter what ££ was on the screen i still wouldn't go near one
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Post by MrPT » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:13 pm

mr wilks wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:25 pm
Z4M-2006 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:18 pm Much prefer this Z4MC...About the right money too

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... Z4M&page=1
That's the one i linked :wink: :oops: :P right money for what appears a genuine motor
Yep - nice find. :thumbsup:
Muckinonthesofa wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:39 pm I love Amerone. :thumbsup:
Extended Amerone! Wouldn’t at all be surprised if that was a unique interior.
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Post by flimper » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:27 pm

Muckinonthesofa wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:39 pm
Extended Amerone! Wouldn’t at all be surprised if that was a unique interior.
Yes, it is the only 1 of 832 cars with extended Amarone

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