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Re: Daft oil change question

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Re: Daft oil change question

Post by mj2k » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:16 pm

Spotted that - is it wrong I like the look of the other one?! :oops:

Spent a few hours looking at whether suction pump vs traditional oil change approach makes a difference. Seems 50:50 on verdicts & nobody with any actual proof either way, just assumptions that make sense for both views.

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Re: Daft oil change question

Post by pvr » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:20 pm

Is this for an interim oil change? If so, I would say that the suction method will be fine. If it is for the "full" oil change, I would take the sump plug approach.
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Re: Daft oil change question

Post by mj2k » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:29 pm

pvr wrote:Is this for an interim oil change? If so, I would say that the suction method will be fine. If it is for the "full" oil change, I would take the sump plug approach.
Interim change Paul, the main changes will be done via the sump (by someone else!). Need to keep the book stamped & can't see the 'done it myself' oil change stamp being accepted with only dealer inspections being acceptable?

This is pretty much where I had got to, unless there was significant benefit to the full sump plug approach. Interim via the pump & main changes done fully.

Given I'd have to buy an oil pan, it isn't much more to just buy the pump - and certainly easier.
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Re: Daft oil change question

Post by Maxsam » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:32 pm

How much of the oil would you expect to get out using the pump method...??
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Post by mj2k » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:07 pm

From what I've read on other forums it seems to get most if it out, possibly leaving less than half a litre behind. Some were getting 5.5L out of a 6L requirement.

Interestingly a few people have then undone the sump plug to find not much more drained out & the majority of extra oil was in the filter / housing.
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Post by Maxsam » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:11 pm

mj2k wrote:From what I've read on other forums it seems to get most if it out, possibly leaving less than half a litre behind. Some were getting 5.5L out of a 6L requirement.

Interestingly a few people have then undone the sump plug to find not much more drained out & the majority of extra oil was in the filter / housing.

Thanks for that... :)
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Re: Daft oil change question

Post by mj2k » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:14 pm

Well, today was the day.

Oil change now successfully completed using a vacuum pump. I reckon I got 5.25L out, as I'm just above the mid-point in the dipstick having added 5.25L back in, warmed the engine up with a little drive & then checking levels and leaks.

All very easy, even for me doing my first oil change ever!

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Post by D4dawg » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:06 pm

I always do my oils by

Run to warm and thin

Take off filler cap and pull dip
Jack on one side
Slide under to undo sump and let drain
Lower jack to flat
Then add 1ltre of fresh to help clean any old out

Once stops
Jack new washer and replace sump plug
Clean out oil filter holder
Remove replace O rings
Place in new filter
Carefully pour new oil outside perimeter
Seal it,
Then add new oil to 3/4 full
Cap and dip in
Run for 5
Dip n top up:)
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Daft oil change question

Post by mj2k » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:26 pm

Getting near the time to change the oil again (Inspection 1 last year), having only covered a whopping 800 miles this year in the M; whenever it has been dry, I've been away & only got a couple of decent runs in it. Currently still sub 25k miles :(

The Catrol oil I previously used appears to have been discontinued, assuming this is its replacement?

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-114352-cast ... e-oil.aspx#

Thinking of changing it just before putting it away for the winter, does that make sense or is it best to start the new season with fresh oil....I know ideally the best will be fresh oil for winter and then fresh oil for summer; but with such low mileage it feels a little OTT to me.

Can't believe I am already coming to the realisation that there are not all that many weeks until I have to tuck it away in the garage again.

Must make sure I get the bloody slow puncture sorted first though, as taking the cover off to keep the tyre overinflated was a royal PITA!
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Post by AndyBeech » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:19 pm

mj2k wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:26 pm Getting near the time to change the oil again (Inspection 1 last year), having only covered a whopping 800 miles this year in the M; whenever it has been dry, I've been away & only got a couple of decent runs in it. Currently still sub 25k miles :(

The Catrol oil I previously used appears to have been discontinued, assuming this is its replacement?

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-114352-cast ... e-oil.aspx#

Thinking of changing it just before putting it away for the winter, does that make sense or is it best to start the new season with fresh oil....I know ideally the best will be fresh oil for winter and then fresh oil for summer; but with such low mileage it feels a little OTT to me.

Can't believe I am already coming to the realisation that there are not all that many weeks until I have to tuck it away in the garage again.

Must make sure I get the bloody slow puncture sorted first though, as taking the cover off to keep the tyre overinflated was a royal PITA!
Don't see the point in changing it before you put it away, just fresh oil sitting around in the engine that will probably somewhat deteriorate in that time. Not like the oil already in there is particularly old anyway, 800 miles and a year is nothing. Do it at the start of the 'new season'.

Carparts4less have the same oil for a fair bit cheaper as well, and yes its the correct oil rebranded.
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Daft oil change question

Post by mj2k » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:44 pm

AndyBeech wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:19 pm
Don't see the point in changing it before you put it away, just fresh oil sitting around in the engine that will probably somewhat deteriorate in that time. Not like the oil already in there is particularly old anyway, 800 miles and a year is nothing. Do it at the start of the 'new season'.

Carparts4less have the same oil for a fair bit cheaper as well, and yes its the correct oil rebranded.
Cheers Andy, particuarly on the pricing.

Guess with me making the decision to not carry out an inspection / oil service via the dealers every year regardless of mileage covered, I wanted to make sure I was putting the best possible care into maintenance that I could. Surely £70 of oil and keeping the receipts is the most reassurance I can provide. Plus of course, I will still need to get the other fluids changed every 2 years. Decision now is how often to get an actual inspection / dealer oil service completed.

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Post by AndyBeech » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:05 pm

mj2k wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:44 pm
AndyBeech wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:19 pm
Don't see the point in changing it before you put it away, just fresh oil sitting around in the engine that will probably somewhat deteriorate in that time. Not like the oil already in there is particularly old anyway, 800 miles and a year is nothing. Do it at the start of the 'new season'.

Carparts4less have the same oil for a fair bit cheaper as well, and yes its the correct oil rebranded.
Cheers Andy, particuarly on the pricing.

Guess with me making the decision to not carry out an inspection / oil service via the dealers every year regardless of mileage covered, I wanted to make sure I was putting the best possible care into maintenance that I could. Surely £70 of oil and keeping the receipts is the most reassurance I can provide. Plus of course, I will still need to get the other fluids changed every 2 years. Decision now is how often to get an actual inspection / dealer oil service completed.

Not far from me as I'm Binfield & parents in law are Bradford on Avon, so might have seen you about at some point.
No probs, if you use carparts4less don't forget the discount codes that show on the main page. Probably another £5-10 to save as well on top of the main price on the website.

Oil filter is Mahle OX 187(D) for reference as standard on the S54 engine. Opie Oils do it or just BMW I guess though you'll pay a premium for the latter obviously.

Depends on how fastidious you want to be regarding servicing. Up to you really, but yeah at a minimum the oil changed every year or so or 6000 odd miles, whichever is first.

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