2017 road tax changes

[mad4slalom]

I see there are changes coming for new vehicles, and increases to the low emissioned small car bands , from 30 quid to 140 in most cases. This has always frustrated me that a small so called green car can do 100k miles a year for 30 quid when the M's and similar are 500 quid a year . I see unfairly again ,as I understand it , the m's wont be coming down to 140 but still remain unchanged at 500. A new Range Rover after 3/4 years will be only 140 as they will be clobbered for the first three years, what about M drivers who have been clobbered every year and will still be in the future !!!

[Mr Tidy]

I think it just proves the tax regime has NEVER been about emissions, just generation of revenue for the Exchequer!

If it was being done on a sensible basis RFL would have been scrapped and a bit of tax added to fuel, seeing as fuel consumption is directly related to CO2 emissions - then the 100K miles a year Hyundai i10 would pay an amount proportionate to its total annual emissions compared with the 10K miles a year Z4M. But that would have been far too simple, and maybe too expensive in terms of redundancy payments in Swansea!

In a few years I hope I can afford a used 2017 registered Mustang V8 that had a new list price below £40K for the same annual RFL as all the miserable Cashcows, Pukes, etc.

[Scaramanga]

I think it just proves the tax regime has NEVER been about emissions, just generation of revenue for the Exchequer!

If it was being done on a sensible basis RFL would have been scrapped and a bit of tax added to fuel, seeing as fuel consumption is directly related to CO2 emissions - then the 100K miles a year Hyundai i10 would pay an amount proportionate to its total annual emissions compared with the 10K miles a year Z4M. But that would have been far too simple, and maybe too expensive in terms of redundancy payments in Swansea!

In a few years I hope I can afford a used 2017 registered Mustang V8 that had a new list price below £40K for the same annual RFL as all the miserable Cashcows, Pukes, etc.

Well said. Totally agree.

[firebobby]

I think it just proves the tax regime has NEVER been about emissions, just generation of revenue for the Exchequer!

If it was being done on a sensible basis RFL would have been scrapped and a bit of tax added to fuel, seeing as fuel consumption is directly related to CO2 emissions - then the 100K miles a year Hyundai i10 would pay an amount proportionate to its total annual emissions compared with the 10K miles a year Z4M. But that would have been far too simple, and maybe too expensive in terms of redundancy payments in Swansea!

In a few years I hope I can afford a used 2017 registered Mustang V8 that had a new list price below £40K for the same annual RFL as all the miserable Cashcows, Pukes, etc.

One of my pet hates....along with traffic lights, rear fog lights, inconsiderate drivers, hedges not being cut back, which narrows lanes etc etc

[chrissrush]

My £30 a year 1 series RFL is due in June, I guess I'll need to SORN it on Feb 28th & re- tax it on March 1st/2nd

If it works it's a reasonable saving!

[firebobby]

My £30 a year 1 series RFL is due in June, I guess I'll need to SORN it on Feb 28th & re- tax it on March 1st/2nd

If it works it's a reasonable saving!

I think this only applies to new cars, your 1 series will remain at £30 as far as I can make out.

[chrissrush]

My £30 a year 1 series RFL is due in June, I guess I'll need to SORN it on Feb 28th & re- tax it on March 1st/2nd

If it works it's a reasonable saving!

I think this only applies to new cars, your 1 series will remain at £30 as far as I can make out.

I think you're correct, it does seem to apply only to cars registered after 01/04/17

[buzyg]

Not good news. I recall the thread discussion on this when it was first announced. My main mild annoyance then, was that this will hit values off cars of a certain age, such as the Z4///M, as they will forever remain in the highest tax bracket, watching newer gas guzzlers become more affordable to tax, around them.

[Paulr]

Only new cars. Any current registers car remains as it is now. In terms of new cars registered after April though, a VW Up! for instance, brought before April will be £20 a year, after April it will be £140. Take the first year into account at £160 and it represents a 950% hike over three years.

The rise includes hybrids.

Any car over £40,000 will also have a 'wealth tax' of £310 levied on it as well for the first 5 years. It then drops to £140. So 5 year old cars will be a great buy!

It was always on the cards really, the goverment were losing millions as almost 15% of new cars are tax exempt or below that £30 a year at the moment. I don't think we can moan too much really, a Panamera at £20 a year tax seems unreasonable really. £140 seems reasonable to me for a 'normal' car, the wealth tax for expensive cars seems fair enough too.

The only cars that avoid any hike is anything without exhaust emmissions, so electric of hydrogen.

As a matter of interest, I just ran a Z4 through my machine (I run a car lease company) the cheapest one is the 1.8 SDrive at £385 month including VAT. They are still available, but that will soon not be the case, and of course the road tax will make them more expensive as well.

[mad4slalom]

With the insurance companies offering limited mileage policies nowadays for exactly our situation, i.e. Hobbyists with weekend or fair weather cars, it would seem fair to be able to have a large engined car with a limited road fund license say in increments of 5k annual miles ? A pay as you drive type scheme ?

[Mr Tidy]

With the insurance companies offering limited mileage policies nowadays for exactly our situation, i.e. Hobbyists with weekend or fair weather cars, it would seem fair to be able to have a large engined car with a limited road fund license say in increments of 5k annual miles ? A pay as you drive type scheme

Good luck with that idea - it wouldn't even generate enough revenue to fund the "upgrade" of the M3 from J2 to J4a to a "Smart" motorway, especially that it has already taken nearly 3 years and shows no signs of being completed in my lifetime!

[VRSteve]

My £30 a year 1 series RFL is due in June, I guess I'll need to SORN it on Feb 28th & re- tax it on March 1st/2nd

If it works it's a reasonable saving!

Good luck with that.

[MACK]

I've never understood why they don't just slap an extra 5-10p a litre on fuel. no admin costs so a huge saving at Swansea and its an effective emission/mileage basis tariff as quite simply "the more you drive and the worse your mpg the more you pay." Seems fair and proportional to me.

The only positive about the new tax system is in a few years time the funds are supposed to be ringfence for road spending. it that actually happens maybe our roads will improve. Plus with it being a true Road Tax again we can all tell the cyclists where to go!!!