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Post by D4dawg » Sun May 28, 2017 10:11 pm

I pity the fool :rofl:

Heard alot of melted engines due to that
But Not heard of s54 using Nos?

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Post by Dablk » Sun May 28, 2017 10:15 pm

Does seem a shame to be to take a beauty of an N/A engine and change it.
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Post by MACK » Sun May 28, 2017 10:16 pm

I suppose on a positive note a supercharged Z4M would be uber rare/special and certainly more fun to drive than either of the others you've mentioned. Compared to what you would loose in depreciation on the alternatives the cost of the supercharger kit plus a hike in insurance seems the lesser of two evils. As has been said this sort of build always throws up a few issues but its all part of the fun/sense of achievement, although it doesn't always feel like it at the time.
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Post by D4dawg » Sun May 28, 2017 10:28 pm

I hear you dab
But not much you can do with N.A. without spending silly money for little gain

Mack you get my issue:)
As both cars would loose money until plateau
But this way I keep my cars and yes spend money but
Would be a weapon hahaha
An M sleeper if you will
As my brain wanted f10 m5 lump;)

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Post by NavZ » Sun May 28, 2017 11:32 pm

I'm in a similar position albeit a bit weirder.
I have a Vortech V3sci Supercharger kit sitting in my garage (for over a year)
Thing is I still have the dilemma of fitting it or not, I got it at a steal and can easily get my money back… but not sure I want to run into issues down the line.
My biggest issue is finding someone who can write some decent software for the Z4M as the M3 has an older ECU so it's not compatible.
Pretty sure I will install it in the next month or two but we shall see…
I don't plan on selling my Z4M EVER, so I want to make it (even more) special.
Resale doesn't affect me but I don't want to ruin an otherwise mint M :cry:

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Cons: cost, resale, insurance, cost, fuel?, noise?, reliability, cost, heat & you'll constantly find SC things you want to upgrade aka money pit.
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Post by MACK » Mon May 29, 2017 12:12 am

D4dawg wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 10:28 pm I hear you dab
But not much you can do with N.A. without spending silly money for little gain

Mack you get my issue:)
As both cars would loose money until plateau
But this way I keep my cars and yes spend money but
Would be a weapon hahaha
An M sleeper if you will
As my brain wanted f10 m5 lump;)
I pretty sure someones done the M5 lump into a E85 in the UK. I'm sure I read about it on here or there was a link posted to it a year or so back. Not sure how weight distribution would compared S54 with a supercharger vs F10 M5.
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Post by GuidoK » Mon May 29, 2017 1:09 am

NavZ wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 11:32 pm I'm in a similar position albeit a bit weirder.
I have a Vortech V3sci Supercharger kit sitting in my garage (for over a year)
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My biggest issue is finding someone who can write some decent software for the Z4M as the M3 has an older ECU so it's not compatible.
Which supercharger kit do you have?
The original supplier can surely sell you the tuning.
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Post by markplant » Mon May 29, 2017 7:41 am

MACK wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 12:12 am
D4dawg wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 10:28 pm I hear you dab
But not much you can do with N.A. without spending silly money for little gain

Mack you get my issue:)
As both cars would loose money until plateau
But this way I keep my cars and yes spend money but
Would be a weapon hahaha
An M sleeper if you will
As my brain wanted f10 m5 lump;)
I pretty sure someones done the M5 lump into a E85 in the UK. I'm sure I read about it on here or there was a link posted to it a year or so back. Not sure how weight distribution would compared S54 with a supercharger vs F10 M5.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=55073&hilit=V10

The V10 thread, I did go an see this at Stevie's workshop an it is amazing
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Post by MACK » Mon May 29, 2017 9:06 am

markplant wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 7:41 am
MACK wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 12:12 am
D4dawg wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 10:28 pm I hear you dab
But not much you can do with N.A. without spending silly money for little gain

Mack you get my issue:)
As both cars would loose money until plateau
But this way I keep my cars and yes spend money but
Would be a weapon hahaha
An M sleeper if you will
As my brain wanted f10 m5 lump;)
I pretty sure someones done the M5 lump into a E85 in the UK. I'm sure I read about it on here or there was a link posted to it a year or so back. Not sure how weight distribution would compared S54 with a supercharger vs F10 M5.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=55073&hilit=V10

The V10 thread, I did go an see this at Stevie's workshop an it is amazing
I can probably answer my own question, spotted this on page 2 of the above linked thread "Quite bulky but not much heavier than 3.0 six cylinder 217 kIlos against 241 kilos for the v10." At that rate a V10 engined E85 would probably be actually lighter than the Z4M! Interesting but I guess it really is one of those projects you need to do yourself or labour costs would get well out of hand, at least a charger kit you know its roughly x amount of hours to fit if your paying for it.
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Post by D4dawg » Mon May 29, 2017 1:29 pm

Hahaha your not helping with that v10;)
Looks sounds goes;)

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Post by Beedub » Mon May 29, 2017 3:17 pm

Do it.....

if you got a really clean car... then it only adds to the coolness!! lol..

Looking at best part of 10k now days once its all fitted and duties paid... probably abit more... Still monster performance puts it into the serious league.... worth very penny, the car feels SO special, sounds so special , and the performance is quite literally nuts.

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Post by D4dawg » Mon May 29, 2017 4:19 pm

Beedub wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 3:17 pm Do it.....

if you got a really clean car... then it only adds to the coolness!! lol..

Looking at best part of 10k now days once its all fitted and duties paid... probably abit more... Still monster performance puts it into the serious league.... worth very penny, the car feels SO special, sounds so special , and the performance is quite literally nuts.

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Post by Beedub » Mon May 29, 2017 4:37 pm

just added the S/C race brace which braces the s/c unit against the block, PITA to install but further enhances the install.
Sometimes people wonder part isn't stock when i lift the hood... its such a neat setup and really looks lovely to behold....
ill be at Zfest and i can really spend some proper detail time with you this time.

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Post by Machine monkey » Mon May 29, 2017 9:32 pm

Mark let's face it you have got to do it!
Just think of the shame your going to suffer every time my car leaves you for dust. If I ever finish it!!
My little blue zed is in lots of bits. With lots of things started and not many finished! I may have found the limits of my time and ability!!

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