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Post by RedUn » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:24 pm

pHilli0 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:37 pm
RedUn wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:24 pm You clearly need a carbon airbox then... :poke: 8)
Ha you are exactly right! I do need one. I tell myself that every time I drive the car. Then the £3k cost brings me down to earth. At £1,500 I would probably go for it. Do you have one?
Not yet... It is expensive but I think it completes the car with some cams which you already have so your nearly there! 8)
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Post by pHilli0 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:06 am

Vanne wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:12 am Any luck Phill? October will be here before you know it mate. :thumbsup:
Contacted a few places in UK and one in Germany. All out of stock, so no choice but to wait. I have put a note in my calendar end of Sep :(
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Post by pHilli0 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:13 am

RedUn wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:24 pm Not yet... It is expensive but I think it completes the car with some cams which you already have so your nearly there! 8)
Ha, whenever I think I have stopped I am scouring the forum for more! I have zero plans to sell the car, so SC seems like the best option. For me a 3k airbox is a non starter as the sound is epic but its just sound, and the 3k is a third towards having 535hp and exclusivity in a Z4MC SC.

I could be tempted with the 1.5k option all in but the differences between the e46 and e86 just make that journey one full of risk and probable pain.

I know for a lot of people doing the SC means all the other stuff needs doing and the costs spiral, but my engine has a new top end, with the schricks and the rebuild, the bottom end is inspected and the shells replaced. Compression tested, cam phased tested, you name it. So the engine is as sound as you like. I have the BBK already, the KW V3s, the ARBs, the car is ready for more power. So I think that is my plan now, slowly build up an SC fund.
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Post by Vanne » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:56 pm

You know mate, thats probably the best choice to make. I love the NA sound, but 535 cannot be denied. That will make it off the planet. :thumbsup:
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Post by TomK » Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:37 pm

pHilli0 wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:13 am
RedUn wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:24 pm Not yet... It is expensive but I think it completes the car with some cams which you already have so your nearly there! 8)
Ha, whenever I think I have stopped I am scouring the forum for more! I have zero plans to sell the car, so SC seems like the best option. For me a 3k airbox is a non starter as the sound is epic but its just sound, and the 3k is a third towards having 535hp and exclusivity in a Z4MC SC.

I could be tempted with the 1.5k option all in but the differences between the e46 and e86 just make that journey one full of risk and probable pain.

I know for a lot of people doing the SC means all the other stuff needs doing and the costs spiral, but my engine has a new top end, with the schricks and the rebuild, the bottom end is inspected and the shells replaced. Compression tested, cam phased tested, you name it. So the engine is as sound as you like. I have the BBK already, the KW V3s, the ARBs, the car is ready for more power. So I think that is my plan now, slowly build up an SC fund.
Don't want to put a downer on the idea phil, but look into the implications of having put higher lift cams in the car (designed for NA applications) with a supercharger, as FI specific cams would ideally have a longer duration. They may mess with any standard SC tune, as the tune will have been done for the standard lift/duration of 268/268.
Did you go with 272/272 (which should be ok I think) or 288/280 (which might present a problem)?
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Post by pHilli0 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:11 pm

TomK wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:37 pm Don't want to put a downer on the idea phil, but look into the implications of having put higher lift cams in the car (designed for NA applications) with a supercharger, as FI specific cams would ideally have a longer duration. They may mess with any standard SC tune, as the tune will have been done for the standard lift/duration of 268/268.
Did you go with 272/272 (which should be ok I think) or 288/280 (which might present a problem)?
Yea I did casually have a think about the cams when I was thinking SC. Looking at what I have they are essentially the CSL spec cams:
SCHRICK CAMSHAFTS FOR S54 (B32) 6 CYL. 4 VALVE E46 M3 STAGE 1
-280/132-72 - Intake
-272/128-83 - Exhaust

I am hopeful that is close enough to stock to not create a problem but I have no information at all just a hope. If anyone out there has ever supercharged their CSL I guess it must work, outside of that .. ?
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Post by TomK » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:12 pm

pHilli0 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:11 pm
TomK wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:37 pm Don't want to put a downer on the idea phil, but look into the implications of having put higher lift cams in the car (designed for NA applications) with a supercharger, as FI specific cams would ideally have a longer duration. They may mess with any standard SC tune, as the tune will have been done for the standard lift/duration of 268/268.
Did you go with 272/272 (which should be ok I think) or 288/280 (which might present a problem)?
Yea I did casually have a think about the cams when I was thinking SC. Looking at what I have they are essentially the CSL spec cams:
SCHRICK CAMSHAFTS FOR S54 (B32) 6 CYL. 4 VALVE E46 M3 STAGE 1
-280/132-72 - Intake
-272/128-83 - Exhaust

I am hopeful that is close enough to stock to not create a problem but I have no information at all just a hope. If anyone out there has ever supercharged their CSL I guess it must work, outside of that .. ?
Good forward thinking :D I would give Simpson Motorsport a call, they've been supercharging s54s for a long time now and I have personally seen some supercharged oem csl cars there so they should know. I believe they generally use ESS kit.
Happy saving :D That will be a proper weapon one day. :thumbsup:
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Post by Vanne » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:59 am

I wondered why you went 280/272.. now we know. ;)
Any further info on comparability come to light?
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Post by D4dawg » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:37 pm

I added to cart and neither said out of stock buddy

Give them a shout perhaps??
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Post by pHilli0 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:54 pm

D4dawg wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:37 pm I added to cart and neither said out of stock buddy

Give them a shout perhaps??
Thanks for trying that :)
I'll give them a shout. The thing I find is noone stock these, they are all special order with supersprint. Few places in Germany were similar, I enquired and they confirmed no luck.
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Post by D4dawg » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:06 pm

Ah well hopefully they keep stock
Hmmmm I'll try looking further for you as stuck on sofa haha

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Post by Beedub » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:21 pm

pHilli0 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:54 pm
D4dawg wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:37 pm I added to cart and neither said out of stock buddy

Give them a shout perhaps??
Thanks for trying that :)
I'll give them a shout. The thing I find is noone stock these, they are all special order with supersprint. Few places in Germany were similar, I enquired and they confirmed no luck.
You should be ok with those cams , high lift cams can "bleed boost".... but i believe the tune can be altered to make the most of cams.
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