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My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:16 pm
by bladeowner
Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:38 pm
bladeowner wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:38 pm
john-e89 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:43 pm
Scratch a marker between the ring and the motor housing Mike, then you’ll know where the ring sits from the factory. It’ll only turn approx 10mm clockwise IIRC, but approx 3/4 way round anti clockwise. Turn it clockwise, you only need approx 3mm, any more it’ll be too loose, but it’s a bit trial and error, I’ve heard people turning them 10-15mm but that’s extreme I think, try 3mm and go for a run. I think it’s the crown and pinion gears tightening as they get warm from the foot heater, mine was very bad, but only after about an hour with the blower on. Let us know how you get on Ok.
I already had tried the drill and grease method but moving the ring is the cure in my book. As John says it's trial and error. I tried 5mm at first on mine but it wasn't enough and so I went a bit more around 8-9mm. You can see which way to move it from the scratches on mine below:
20160605_1302491_zpsg1hi8gf0.jpg
Just for reference, an 8mm flex head ratchet spanner is the PERFECT tool for this job, easily gets to both bolts. Done in 5 mins..
20171022_173436.jpg
Mike
Was yours not a torx head then?
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:41 pm
by Ducklakeview
bladeowner wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:16 pm
Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:38 pm
bladeowner wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:38 pm
I already had tried the drill and grease method but moving the ring is the cure in my book. As John says it's trial and error. I tried 5mm at first on mine but it wasn't enough and so I went a bit more around 8-9mm. You can see which way to move it from the scratches on mine below:
20160605_1302491_zpsg1hi8gf0.jpg
Just for reference, an 8mm flex head ratchet spanner is the PERFECT tool for this job, easily gets to both bolts. Done in 5 mins..
20171022_173436.jpg
Mike
Was yours not a torx head then?
Yes, they are E10 male torx, which are obviously six sided and just happen to be 7.86mm across, so the spanner fits perfectly!
Mike
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:48 pm
by bladeowner
Great tip! Hopefully I won't have to adjust mine again.
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:56 am
by Crazy Harry
I've got a set of torx sockets but for that sort of job a cheap set of torx ring spanners from fleabay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Siegen-by-Sea ... Swu4BV1fAi
doesn't add much to the job and might get you out of trouble once in a while. But.... if I can have a quick rant why use so many different 'spanner systems' on a car. Just done the DMF on a ford and need four different sets of socket/spanner drives. Gerrr....
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:31 am
by Ducklakeview
No good for this job, not enough swing room to use them, only a flex head ratchet spanner would fit. I have a similar set of E-torx spanners which are slimmer than those in your link and they wouldn't work as not ratchet headed.
Mike
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:47 am
by tomscott
The man knows his stuff. Love these threads!
Awesome stuff
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:12 am
by Ducklakeview
Hi hi, hi ho, it's off for a refurb we go....
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Mike
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:52 am
by bladeowner
Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:31 am
No good for this job, not enough swing room to use them, only a flex head ratchet spanner would fit. I have a similar set of E-torx spanners which are slimmer than those in your link and they wouldn't work as not ratchet headed.
Mike
I bought these and managed to get them undone but I could just have been lucky that there was enough angle to undo.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/4-PC-Professio ... 4097.l9055
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:02 am
by Crazy Harry
Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:31 am
No good for this job, not enough swing room to use them, only a flex head ratchet spanner would fit. I have a similar set of E-torx spanners which are slimmer than those in your link and they wouldn't work as not ratchet headed.
Mike
When I had a restock of tools (thanks to some passing Pikies and Aviva) I got metric combination spanners each in three length sizes. Gets me into most spaces or applies enough torque. Can't get on with the idea of 'obstruction spanners' though - have found a socket on the end of a square drive flexible shaft screw driver can be a life saver even if you have to gaffer tape all the socket; drive converters and shaft together!
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:07 am
by jamie_z4
great write up as ever Mike!
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:11 am
by adam1985
Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:38 pm
bladeowner wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:38 pm
john-e89 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:43 pm
Scratch a marker between the ring and the motor housing Mike, then you’ll know where the ring sits from the factory. It’ll only turn approx 10mm clockwise IIRC, but approx 3/4 way round anti clockwise. Turn it clockwise, you only need approx 3mm, any more it’ll be too loose, but it’s a bit trial and error, I’ve heard people turning them 10-15mm but that’s extreme I think, try 3mm and go for a run. I think it’s the crown and pinion gears tightening as they get warm from the foot heater, mine was very bad, but only after about an hour with the blower on. Let us know how you get on Ok.
I already had tried the drill and grease method but moving the ring is the cure in my book. As John says it's trial and error. I tried 5mm at first on mine but it wasn't enough and so I went a bit more around 8-9mm. You can see which way to move it from the scratches on mine below:
20160605_1302491_zpsg1hi8gf0.jpg
Just for reference, an 8mm flex head ratchet spanner is the PERFECT tool for this job, easily gets to both bolts. Done in 5 mins..
20171022_173436.jpg
Mike
But the question is did it fix the problem?
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:35 pm
by Ducklakeview
adam1985 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:11 am
Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:38 pm
bladeowner wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:38 pm
I already had tried the drill and grease method but moving the ring is the cure in my book. As John says it's trial and error. I tried 5mm at first on mine but it wasn't enough and so I went a bit more around 8-9mm. You can see which way to move it from the scratches on mine below:
20160605_1302491_zpsg1hi8gf0.jpg
Just for reference, an 8mm flex head ratchet spanner is the PERFECT tool for this job, easily gets to both bolts. Done in 5 mins..
20171022_173436.jpg
Mike
But the question is did it fix the problem?
YES!
Mike
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:42 pm
by mr wilks
Not refurbing with tyres on are you Mike
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:01 pm
by jamie_z4
mr wilks wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:42 pm
Not refurbing with tyres on are you Mike
Nah - theyre in at Tillings with Sam
My little project Z4 2.0 Sport..
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:05 pm
by mr wilks
Getting old Bridgestone runflats off can be a proper bitch , , be better with centres bolted in