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Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:51 pm
by Rsipad
Hi all,

A week ago, I started a road trip out to the track. About 0.2 miles into the 4 hour journey, the car started acting strange.

1. The "brake" light came up in orange font, the tire pressure light came on in orange font, and the TC off light also came on.

2. The throttle kept sticking for about 0.3 seconds after letting off above 3k rpm (and only under load, not when blipping the throttle).

3. The e-dipstick would not give a reading throught the entire trip. I tried while idling, driving on the highway, city driving, and even on the track. In all situations, the clock symbol would appear for 5 minutes after pressing the button and then it would time out.

Once I got back home, I tried disconnecting the battery and the MAF. I also checked codes, but nothing is showing up (except the usual MAF code after unplugging it, I cleared it and it went away). All of the issues are still present. Any ideas what could have caused all these problems to appear simultaneously and what else I should check?

Thanks in advance.

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:00 pm
by enuff_zed
Item 1 is often associated with a yaw sensor failure, but with all those other issues I think I'd start by checking the battery is good.

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:45 pm
by Trav
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If it is not the battery, there are many common grounding points on the car. I included one from an early model Z that shows how the oil sensor is actually grounded with other items on a common point. Sometimes these common grounds can be the source of spurious multiple faults. Although it is unclear why you are not seeing codes. Just another avenue to look for the drawings on and maybe check.

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:58 pm
by Jas- USA
With no codes coming up, check battery and if good to go, I'd consider changing out the ignition switch. Google: BMW bad ignition switch.

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:59 pm
by enuff_zed
Trav wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:45 pm Image

If it is not the battery, there are many common grounding points on the car. I included one from an early model Z that shows how the oil sensor is actually grounded with other items on a common point. Sometimes these common grounds can be the source of spurious multiple faults. Although it is unclear why you are not seeing codes. Just another avenue to look for the drawings on and maybe check.
This is interesting and seems to cover a lot of the OPs issues.

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:34 pm
by Rsipad
enuff_zed wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:00 pm I think I'd start by checking the battery is good.
Battery is 2 years old, so it should be good, but it's an easy thing to check so I'll give it a go :thumbsup:
Trav wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:45 pm Image

If it is not the battery, there are many common grounding points on the car. Just another avenue to look for the drawings on and maybe check.
Interesting... thanks for the response. I'll have a look at the ground for the oil sensor and check if all 3 issues are connected to the same ground.

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:39 pm
by buzyg
Definitely check the battery, as above, :thumbsup:

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:10 am
by deltasierra
If it’s an old battery change it, it can look good on the tester but as soon as you put a load on it the voltage drops. It’s easily your cheapest option, there is no guaranteed life I’ve had then go bad a 6 months, others have lasted 8 yrs, todays electronics are very sensitive to low voltage.

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:05 pm
by Rsipad
Issue ended up being the steering angle sensor being out of calibration. No idea why that would cause a sticky throttle or the e-dipstick to not work, but I'll take it :D

Strange Electrical Gremlins. Thoughts?

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:11 pm
by enuff_zed
Rsipad wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:05 pm Issue ended up being the steering angle sensor being out of calibration. No idea why that would cause a sticky throttle or the e-dipstick to not work, but I'll take it :D
Can’t answer the dipstick one but if the car thinks the steering angle is excessive it will activate all the dynamic stability stuff which regulates throttle input.