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Oil change interval

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:07 pm
by pvr
Was reading an article about engine oil where the conclusion was that oil doesn’t deteriorate by time and only by miles.

Thought that was interesting as I always thought that the annual change of oil on the Golf that might do 300 miles or so, could be excessive so might as well skip every other year.

Will see if I can locate the article

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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:09 pm
by Mr Tidy
I'd like to see that article.

When I was still doing business mileage my BMWs always needed an oil change based on mileage, but now I've stopped working they get done on time so every 2 years which seems to be around 6/7 thousand miles. Any more frequent than that just struck me as overkill so it would be good to see if I may be right!

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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:37 pm
by Nanu
Surely if oil deteriorated over time, each can of oil would have a sell by date. Also if you purchased it towards the end of that date, would that mean an even earlier oil service once you put an oil that's already say 6 months old into your car?

Car booked in for its second service which includes an oil service and plugs, on Thursday with 18K on the clock so will ask.

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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:38 pm
by pvr
Haven’t found it yet, will check my desktop machine history Monday.

It was showing that an analysis of a 14 year old open oil bottle that nothing had deteriorated.

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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:44 pm
by Mr Tidy
I can see why old fashioned mineral oils might deteriorate over time, but modern oils are synthetic based so I'd hope they wouldn't.

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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:49 pm
by Pondrew
pvr wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:38 pm It was showing that an analysis of a 14 year old open oil bottle that nothing had deteriorated.
A bit different to it sitting in a sealed metal 'box' though. :?

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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:50 pm
by Pondrew
Mr Tidy wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:44 pm I can see why old fashioned mineral oils might deteriorate over time
It took millions of years to form, so don't see why TBH. :wink:

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:00 am
by TitanTim
Always had the BMWs serviced every two years regardless.

Don't BMW say their gearboxes are sealed for life but if you've seen the state of the oil at 60k miles it's not a pretty sight.

Tim.

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:22 am
by buzyg
Interesting thread. Hope you can find the article to share.

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:02 am
by raymond.harper

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:20 am
by pvr
Yep, thanks Ray - that was the one

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:36 am
by enuff_zed
But if it goes into your car and does a bit of work it then sits in the sump and oil ways potentially holding foreign matter and moisture in it.
Not quite the same as leaving the top off a bottle.

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:46 am
by pvr
But isn’t that the case with the 993 example where it hadn’t deteriorated ?

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:02 am
by enuff_zed
pvr wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:46 am But isn’t that the case with the 993 example where it hadn’t deteriorated ?
Yup.
But I was meaning that the oil may stay the same but what is it holding within it?

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:08 am
by pvr
Which comes back to how many miles it has done with the oil, the more miles the more pollution