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Coppaslip is old hat these days, get some metal free Pagid Cera Tech such as this; http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-a ... 0&&cc5_150

Mike

Ferrodo ds2500
Not cheap but rip face off from cold
Dont fade
But can give off dust if used hard
But to be expected

Ducklakeview wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:02 pm Coppaslip is old hat these days, get some metal free Pagid Cera Tech such as this; http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/car-a ... 0&&cc5_150

Mike

Yeah that sort of stuff - for the (back side) of brake pads only!

Is there something out there that's better for alloy to brake disc grease? Lithium grease perhaps?

D4dawg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:38 pm Ferrodo ds2500
Not cheap but rip face off from cold
Dont fade
But can give off dust if used hard
But to be expected

And noise? I've got a thing about squealing brakes!

kis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:09 pm

D4dawg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:38 pm Ferrodo ds2500
Not cheap but rip face off from cold
Dont fade
But can give off dust if used hard
But to be expected

And noise? I've got a thing about squealing brakes!

Nothing from fronts
Rears can if do Alot of town driving
Give them.a beating and all good ,)

D4dawg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:38 pm Ferrodo ds2500
Not cheap but rip face off from cold
Dont fade
But can give off dust if used hard
But to be expected

I have them too, great pads but the only downside for me is dust. (and price). But stopping power is super!

I'm sold. I'd rather have the dust if it means more stopping power...

vester86 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:36 pm

D4dawg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:38 pm Ferrodo ds2500
Not cheap but rip face off from cold
Dont fade
But can give off dust if used hard
But to be expected

I have them too, great pads but the only downside for me is dust. (and price). But stopping power is super!

That they are but only on hard braking

Exo coat or wheel wax the crap out of wheels and it simply doesn't stick:)

kis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:44 am I'm sold. I'd rather have the dust if it means more stopping power...

Just hunt for best price
I found not much between them as not cheap pads in first place

D4dawg what's your part number coming up as? FCP1300H or FCP1073H?

Oh you're an M... my bad!

I avoid EBC based on experience. I've used DS2500 a lot. They are expensive but appreciably better than the OEMs I've replaced with them. I've bought from Camskill, Amazon and eBay in the past.

Pagid RS29s very good, but very loud.

ferry wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:18 am I avoid EBC based on experience. I've used DS2500 a lot. They are expensive but appreciably better than the OEMs I've replaced with them. I've bought from Camskill, Amazon and eBay in the past.

Pagid RS29s very good, but very loud.

According to Ferodo the DS2500 is a "Track use only" pad that's not a legal ECER90 tested part, so is illegal for use on the road. I don't know if there have been prosecutions but guess it would only come 'on-top' after a serious/fatal accident once examiners get involved. At which point wilfully neglected or illegal brakes can lead to jail time. So apart from cold friction issues I'd be very wary of track pads on the road TBH.

Ewazix wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:49 am

ferry wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:18 am I avoid EBC based on experience. I've used DS2500 a lot. They are expensive but appreciably better than the OEMs I've replaced with them. I've bought from Camskill, Amazon and eBay in the past.

Pagid RS29s very good, but very loud.

According to Ferodo the DS2500 is a "Track use only" pad that's not a legal ECER90 tested part, so is illegal for use on the road. I don't know if there have been prosecutions but guess it would only come 'on-top' after a serious/fatal accident once examiners get involved. At which point wilfully neglected or illegal brakes can lead to jail time. So apart from cold friction issues I'd be very wary of track pads on the road TBH.

Worth noting that DS3000 is track only and has a warning on the website stating that it's not suitable for the road. DS2500 has no such warning on their website and I've personally had zero issues with cold friction. Even in winter. No supplier has ever flagged an issue, nor any garage or MOT centre which has been aware of their presence.

ETA. There's also an inbetween spec, DS Performance. I've less experience of these but have found they work well on the car I used them on. I haven't had DS2500 and DS performance on the same car to make a comparison. http://www.ferodoracing.com/products/ca ... rake-pads/

ETA2. Just checking and I currently have DS2500 on a car and DS Performance on another and both have been good. If it makes a difference, both sets were fitted on new discs.

Ewazix wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:49 am According to Ferodo the DS2500 is a "Track use only" pad that's not a legal ECER90 tested part, so is illegal for use on the road. I don't know if there have been prosecutions but guess it would only come 'on-top' after a serious/fatal accident once examiners get involved. At which point wilfully neglected or illegal brakes can lead to jail time. So apart from cold friction issues I'd be very wary of track pads on the road TBH.

I've got EBC orangestuff 'endurance' pads in my Z4MC, and they weren't even mentioned by the insurance assessor when I had my accident.

ferry wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:18 am I avoid EBC based on experience. I've used DS2500 a lot. They are expensive but appreciably better than the OEMs I've replaced with them. I've bought from Camskill, Amazon and eBay in the past.

Pagid RS29s very good, but very loud.

I've run a couple of sets of RS29 in my Z4MC and not noticed any increased noise. Went back to EBC Bluestuff (then onto Orangestuff) when I realised the RS pads were lasting about 1/2 as long as the EBCs, and were 3 times the price (£100 vs £300) - so effectively costing me 6 times the price per mile.

I only originally tried EBC because they gave BMMC marshals a 50% discount (so 1/12th per mile cost back then). I wouldn't run Ultimax, Greenstuff or Redstuff though.

Even my mate who doesn't like EBC very much was impressed by how they worked/lasted at the Ring and Oulton Park.