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European Road Trip

Justino

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I'm just back from a weeks road trip in the Z4M where we found some epic roads in the South of France, and up into the Alps. I was joined by friends in a 991 GT3, 996 Turbo and a DB9 GT (all 6 litres of it!).

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My Z4m had effectively been off the road for 2 years after it came back from the last trip where the starter motor failed in Turin. That repair turned into fitting a Karbonius airbox, remap, and a full overhaul of the brakes, including stripping the calipers, installing new seals, braided hoses, new handbrake shoes etc. I only got the car rolling again with a week to go before departure, so I was putting a lot of trust in my work, having done all this myself without much chance to do a full shakedown run.

The route started as you'd expect at Calais, headed south through France via the Reims circuit, with the first over night pre booked stop in Troyes which is a lovely French town, where we enjoyed Steak Frites and red wine.

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The next day we continued south, but with no accommodation booked, we were more flexible. In the end we settled on Morzine where we found a great hotel, and restaurant for a traditional Raclette supper, washed down with crisp lager and more wine.

The weather was bad the next day, with poor visibility due to rain, so again with no accommodation booked for that night we took the decision to head south until we found better weather, with the aim of picking up the Route Napoleon on the way. Leaving Morzine we drove over what are in effect the ski slopes in the winter. The route took us close to Grenoble, Gap, eventually stopping in Aix en Provence, where the weather was warm. More steak frites in a fantastic restaurant in a square that can best be described as looking like the set of Allo Allo!

The next night was a pre booked night in Turin, so we retraced some of our steps from the day before, heading north, before heading east to Italy via some Alpine passes. The Col de Vars on the D902 is worth hunting out if you are in the area.

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Dinner in Turin was in the Piazza Vittoria Veneto which is by the river, and if you look over the bridge, you can see the weir the mini's in the Italian Job film drove over.

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The next day was a route to Klosters in Switzerland where we had a pre booking. This route takes you past Como and the lakes, into Switzerland via the Saint Bernadino pass.

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GT3Chasing -https://gopro.com/v/8GKnplb78Bezn

The next morning we woke to reports of the first snow of the season in nearby Davos, so that ended any idea of more alpine passes, especially as the GT3 was on Cup tyres, so we decided to head north to Germany, via the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart, ending in Cologne for beers and more steak probably! That was a big day of driving, but the better road surfaces and lane discipline of other drivers makes the driving easier, quicker also as it included some stretches of derestricted Autobahn!

We were now on the homeward stretch now, so wanted to be within striking distance of Calais for the morning departure, so we picked Antwerp as the stop over, via Classic Remise in Dusseldorf for lunch. We found a great hotel in Antwerp with an underground carpark and enjoyed some locally brewed Stella Artois (5.2% not the 4.6% rubbish in the UK) that night.

The next morning after breakfast we headed to the Chunnel, managing to get an earlier crossing at about 10:30.

All in it was about 2,500 miles. I didn't keep full fuel records, I just know it was £630 of petrol - one tank being lovely 102 Octane!

I love these trips for the driving, scenery, food and wine. I'd recommend it to anyone. Came back relatively unscathed this time, just a cracked windscreen, and possibly a TPS which needs changing - should have done it when the airbox was off.

You can see the general route here

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/5...try=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxOC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw==
 
Wow, such a great trip. I visited Reims last year, loved how well kept it was. If you ever go back I would recommend the Hotel Enzo close to the circuit, full of motoring stuff, including a racing car in the dining room. Did you dare ask your fellow traveller in the Db9, what their mpg was. :lol: :thumbsup:
 
buzyg said:
Wow, such a great trip. I visited Reims last year, loved how well kept it was. If you ever go back I would recommend the Hotel Enzo close to the circuit, full of motoring stuff, including a racing car in the dining room. Did you dare ask your fellow traveller in the Db9, what their mpg was. :lol: :thumbsup:

Reims was a quick detour as we like to get a little further south on the first day

The Aston fuel spend was £872, so £242 more than me. He thinks circa 23mpg given we did some long cruises which isn't so bad, but in the mountains he said the computer was showing 9mpg! My computer kept resetting so I cant tell, but based on his consumption, I reckon 28-29 ish which is pretty good saying we weren't hanging around and mine is remapped for the airbox..

Despite the different tank sizes, and fuel consumption, we all needed to refuel roughly at the same time, which for me was at c 280 miles given the small tank on the Z.

If anyone is interested I'm happy to give hotel details for each night, a mixture of budget, eg Ibis (but were actually really good) to pricier, eg NH in Turin. - crucially they all had good parking arrangements.
 
Just done a Euro trip myself.
 

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Justino said:
I'm just back from a weeks road trip in the Z4M where we found some epic roads in the South of France, and up into the Alps. I was joined by friends in a 991 GT3, 996 Turbo and a DB9 GT (all 6 litres of it!).

2024-09-07_10-01-12_979.jpg

My Z4m had effectively been off the road for 2 years after it came back from the last trip where the starter motor failed in Turin. That repair turned into fitting a Karbonius airbox, remap, and a full overhaul of the brakes, including stripping the calipers, installing new seals, braided hoses, new handbrake shoes etc. I only got the car rolling again with a week to go before departure, so I was putting a lot of trust in my work, having done all this myself without much chance to do a full shakedown run.

The route started as you'd expect at Calais, headed south through France via the Reims circuit, with the first over night pre booked stop in Troyes which is a lovely French town, where we enjoyed Steak Frites and red wine.

2024-09-07_14-41-40_676.jpeg

The next day we continued south, but with no accommodation booked, we were more flexible. In the end we settled on Morzine where we found a great hotel, and restaurant for a traditional Raclette supper, washed down with crisp lager and more wine.

The weather was bad the next day, with poor visibility due to rain, so again with no accommodation booked for that night we took the decision to head south until we found better weather, with the aim of picking up the Route Napoleon on the way. Leaving Morzine we drove over what are in effect the ski slopes in the winter. The route took us close to Grenoble, Gap, eventually stopping in Aix en Provence, where the weather was warm. More steak frites in a fantastic restaurant in a square that can best be described as looking like the set of Allo Allo!

The next night was a pre booked night in Turin, so we retraced some of our steps from the day before, heading north, before heading east to Italy via some Alpine passes. The Col de Vars on the D902 is worth hunting out if you are in the area.

2024-09-10_12-50-17_437.jpeg

Dinner in Turin was in the Piazza Vittoria Veneto which is by the river, and if you look over the bridge, you can see the weir the mini's in the Italian Job film drove over.

2024-09-10_18-17-42_538.jpeg

2024-09-10_20-04-17_586.jpeg

The next day was a route to Klosters in Switzerland where we had a pre booking. This route takes you past Como and the lakes, into Switzerland via the Saint Bernadino pass.

GOPR0086.JPG

GT3Chasing -https://gopro.com/v/8GKnplb78Bezn

The next morning we woke to reports of the first snow of the season in nearby Davos, so that ended any idea of more alpine passes, especially as the GT3 was on Cup tyres, so we decided to head north to Germany, via the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart, ending in Cologne for beers and more steak probably! That was a big day of driving, but the better road surfaces and lane discipline of other drivers makes the driving easier, quicker also as it included some stretches of derestricted Autobahn!

We were now on the homeward stretch now, so wanted to be within striking distance of Calais for the morning departure, so we picked Antwerp as the stop over, via Classic Remise in Dusseldorf for lunch. We found a great hotel in Antwerp with an underground carpark and enjoyed some locally brewed Stella Artois (5.2% not the 4.6% rubbish in the UK) that night.

The next morning after breakfast we headed to the Chunnel, managing to get an earlier crossing at about 10:30.

All in it was about 2,500 miles. I didn't keep full fuel records, I just know it was £630 of petrol - one tank being lovely 102 Octane!

I love these trips for the driving, scenery, food and wine. I'd recommend it to anyone. Came back relatively unscathed this time, just a cracked windscreen, and possibly a TPS which needs changing - should have done it when the airbox was off.

You can see the general route here

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/5...try=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxOC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw==

Just reading this, your route is one I have saved for next year as I definitely would like to visit Turin. I came back last week as well but wasn't as lucky and got caught out 25 mins out from Davos on the mountains coming via the Stelvio Pass.

I did Somerset to Saint Omer, then onto Strasbourg next morning with a stop in Basel. Followed by the Sustan, Grimsel and Furka then down to Bellagio. Return leg was Como to Stelvio then onto Davos for 1 night including getting rescued. We then tried to beat the rain so bypassed Zurich and got up to Troyes what a lovely place. Troyes back to Somerset was a bit long and dull but I would definitely do this sort of road trip again.
 
Great write up. Ive done that sort of trip too (drove down to Lake Como and back, we stayed using Como as a base for a week).
Quite a few of those pics I have also :D
 
abidK said:
Just reading this, your route is one I have saved for next year as I definitely would like to visit Turin. I came back last week as well but wasn't as lucky and got caught out 25 mins out from Davos on the mountains coming via the Stelvio Pass.

I did Somerset to Saint Omer, then onto Strasbourg next morning with a stop in Basel. Followed by the Sustan, Grimsel and Furka then down to Bellagio. Return leg was Como to Stelvio then onto Davos for 1 night including getting rescued. We then tried to beat the rain so bypassed Zurich and got up to Troyes what a lovely place. Troyes back to Somerset was a bit long and dull but I would definitely do this sort of road trip again.

You sort of did a similarish route but in reverse to ours. We try to have the last night within 2 hrs of Calais so the next morning is an easy run. Antwerp or Bruges are good options.

Turin is an experience - we made the mistake going midweek so was quieter, so next time we will schedule it for a Friday or Saturday night as we have done previously. We have also tied in Milan for a night in the past.

We were lucky on the snow, the receptionist at the hotel as we were leaving mentioned the it, then showed us the web cam images.

We did the Stelvio last time, it was busy, and I would say is over rated, but one to tick off, Col De Vars was more enjoyable. We would have done the Furka and Grimsel had it not been for the weather - ones for next time!

Troyes is great, we found a great restaurant off one of the side streets/alleys.

European road trips are the way forward if you want to enjoy driving, as doing so in the UK is generally miserable in comparisson.
 
So we set off on the 24 August for the Euro Tunnel.
Then on to Bruges for one night then to Luxembourg one night, Baden Baden one night,Lake Luzern for one night and then the next day we also did the Sustan,Grimsel,and Furka pass on the way for our next stay at Andermatt .Weather was fantastic, funny how just three weeks later makes a massive difference to the weather.

We then went onto Como for 5 nights,Frejus for one night, two nights Carcassonne

Would highly recommend Carcassonne.
Then on to San-Sebastian and finally got the ferry back to Portsmouth from Santander.
What a trip.
Only had to put the roof up for the last 50 miles to catch the ferry home.
Total length of trip including the 29 hour ferry ride home was 15 days
 
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