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Whatcar True MPG

Glaikit

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Can't see a post on this already so thought I should flag it given all the discussion around real world mpg of late. Whatcar are trying to give new car buyers an idea of the real world mpg of cars by testing in "controlled" real world conditions

http://www.whatcar.com/truempg/my-true-mpg

Description of how they do it:

"The biggest difference between our True MPG fuel economy tests and the official tests is that ours are conducted in real-world conditions rather than in a laboratory. Our test route starts with urban driving at an average speed of 15mph. This is followed by extra-urban roads (dual carriageway and motorway) at an average of 60mph, before the test concludes with another urban loop.

Engines are less efficient when cold, so we always make sure that cars are fully up to temperature before starting a fuel test. Then, once it has begun, our testers drive at a steady pace, avoiding heavy acceleration and braking whenever possible.

Two-seater cars are tested with one person onboard (the testing equipment has to go on the passenger’s seat) and other cars with two people. At the end of the test, the average fuel consumption on the test route is calculated from the CO2 emissions. However, the volume of traffic inevitably varies, so this economy figure is just a starting point.

Sensors attached to the car’s electronic brain record the road speed, exhaust manifold pressure and throttle position throughout the test, while other equipment measures the altitude, humidity and air pressure at each given moment. These variables all have to be factored in before we know a car’s True MPG."

Also a video explaining the process. No Z4 on there but it is interesting how the tested BMW models do quite well compared to claimed EU figures. I was annoyed at our Freelander SD4 getting around 33 mpg, isn't that bad as it turns out since the silly 2WD eD4 with the much lower HP only gets 28 mpg on their test and in similar conditions.

Hopefully they will expand the models over the coming months.
 
I saw that and thought it sounded useful. As you say, hopefully they will build up a database of models quickly. However with it being What Car, which seems to focus on cars popular with fleets and family type cars I wouldn't hold your breath for Z4's and the like to appear. By their very nature sports cars don't tend to be driven by the sector of the population most concerned with fuel economy.
 
You mentioned when cars are up to operating temperature... so isn't real world as my TDi quattro will do +\- 50mpg on a run at 80, yet know it'll just guzzle if used for lots of short trips on a cold start - same goes for the Zed (excluding the +50mpg... Lol)

Am more concerned where the sun has gone... cleaned the Zed inside & out yesterday & it's now pants outside... Ho hummm
 
Just looked at it, TBH "pinch of salt springs" to mind as I can't get it to get anywhere near what I achieve out of my 118d.

If I put driving style on quickly it reports 45mpg, and if I knock it back one reports 42mpg, one less 39mpg and on economial 45mpg :?
 
Completely agree that the tests should be more realistic, as it stands they don't take into account any different specs, don't take into account that you're probably going to have air-con on, boot not empty, music on, extra weight from heated seats etc etc.

From a selfish point of view, working for another car manufacturer in Customer Relations, I really cannot wait until Monday morning for the phones to start ringing with people queuing to complain about this!!!

Rach
 
I've always been able to beat the stated MPG when driving carefully. However, life would be very boring if we all drive our zeds to get max mpg.

I get 45mpg from my 1.6 Polo GTi, which is my runaround. Fantastic for an ancient hot hatch, and at least 5mpg more than the published figure.

Last Tuesday went hooning in the zed and got 22.3mpg calculated :evil:


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Interesting.....I've not got lower than the advertised mpg in my ///M (and I don't go long between hoons) yet I couldn't get within 8mpg of the advertised in my Jaguar XF. Even got 340 miles and just a squeak above 32mpg (average speed 61mph) on my last fill up courtesy of our overcrowded motorways and A roads.
 
In the Zed I've managed to get close to the extra urban figures published by Autotrader (I got to 38.7mpg they state 43.5mpg)
In the compact Im nowhere near I get around 45mpg max but the figures on Autotrader are 53.3mpg for Extra Urban.

I managed 34mpg in my E24 635CSi Auto which is superb and 45mpg in my VW Scirocco 16v Gti which again is fantastic.

I think I should teach how to drive grandad style :lol:
 
Personally I think the current tests are excellent in that in as near identical conditions as possible (in a lab), they give out various MPG's.

Forget them as absolute values as every driver, load, spec. road, traffic, etc. is different, but as a way of comparing one car to another in a relative manner.

This What Car method is equally useless for absolute values as it states (as already posted) that cars are tested only when warm, but ALL journeys start from cold.

Consider MPG figures like APR on credit. You can compare one deal to another in costs and nothing more.
 
cj10jeeper said:
ALL journeys start from cold.

I was wondering if I could improve the mpg by lining the engine compartment with heat reflective bubble wrap. The only thing that is stopping me is that if it worked surely it would be standard?
 
Finisterre said:
cj10jeeper said:
ALL journeys start from cold.

I was wondering if I could improve the mpg by lining the engine compartment with heat reflective bubble wrap. The only thing that is stopping me is that if it worked surely it would be standard?

Nice idea. My comment was of course more for it being rather a cheat to only measure mpg ne warm. A bit like resetting MPG calculation just as you crest a long hill :)

Certainly there are all sorts of things going on to keep engines at max temperature, reduce unrequired cooling and airflow. BMW shut off the grilles on some models until the engine heat requires them to be opened and then just enough to cool.
 
cj10jeeper said:
Forget them as absolute values as every driver, load, spec. road, traffic, etc. is different, but as a way of comparing one car to another in a relative manner.
Agree - they're more useful to allow comparisons between cars than use as expected values. Saying that, I've achieved the official average on the last few cars I've owned (including my Z4) apart from a diesel: I got 6mpg less than official (45mpg vs 51mpg) which I put down to lots of sub-10 mile drives.

I do wish the tests were more realistic though as I know I'm easier on fuel than the average person.
 
im surprised they didnbt mention fuelly in the article (well I didn't see it in my quick flick at the shops...)

All the data people put in there is public, so if more people used it you could get real world figures about each car...

Personally our Mazda 2 Sport is shockingly short of the manufacturers figures, the DS3 is doing rather well compared to that...
 
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