Snow tires....yes, it reads SNOW tires!

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Reminder that if you are going to need them, now is the time to order them. Procrastinate and you will be on the back-order list.

http://www.tirerack.com

USA: Try these guys for price comparison to your local dealer or tire shop.

Cheers,
Greg
 
Get Bridgestone Blizzacks. Limited to 140kph but got me through 2-3 foot snow drifts in the FX45.

My set is ready & on rims with nitrogen in them to minimize oxidation of the rims. Compressed air has moisture and can eat the rims from the insides.
 
Yup - I have a set of 225/45R17 Pirelli Sotozero tires mounted on Sport Edition CD Silver rims on order with them now. Delivery scheduled for late this month.
 
enfield said:
Get Bridgestone Blizzacks. Limited to 140kph but got me through 2-3 foot snow drifts in the FX45.

My set is ready & on rims with nitrogen in them to minimize oxidation of the rims. Compressed air has moisture and can eat the rims from the insides.
It's Dunlop SP WinterSport M3's for me! :D Should be in by the end of next week.

BTW, nitrogen's overrated... don't waste your money on it, unless it's free. LINK
 
Rick Hunter, agreed - nitrogen is overrated. I am more concerned by the issue of mositure when the rims and tires sit in the garage for 7 months of the year.
 
This will be season 5 for my Michelin Alpin tires... :)
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dang, I'm glad I don't have to worry about that, I change enough tires for unable women [read: don't know how :roll: ] and elderly people at my job. Once every couple weeks is enough for me!
WLH: Your wheels are just :drool:
 
fire-n-ice said:
WLH: Your wheels are just :drool:
Thank you...Got them on close out from Tirerack about 5 years ago for around $100 each for my winter tires.
 
I've got Blizzak LM22s. They're pretty good on dry pavement and are reasonable in snow. Something with more bite would be preferrable if I had to face snow often through the winter.
 
We rarely have snow over here, but when we do the whole country grinds to a halt! I've never bothered with snow tires though, it's more of a challenge slippin-an-a-slidin on normal ones :D
 
agree with sp3ctre. We rarely get snow, but when we do chaos ensues.

So I'm ready to escalate the situation:

First season with a Z4 coming up so I'll give it a go and no doubt have great fun

If that fails I'll switch to the X5

...and if all else fails it's one of my Jeeps:

Bring on your worst this year.......

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cj10jeeper said:
agree with sp3ctre. We rarely get snow, but when we do chaos ensues.

So I'm ready to escalate the situation:

First season with a Z4 coming up so I'll give it a go and no doubt have great fun

If that fails I'll switch to the X5

...and if all else fails it's one of my Jeeps:

Bring on your worst this year.......

Ground clearence is important but so is grip. You need grip. Winter tires provide more grip due to the design and the rubber compound used. Those jeeps may actually be dangerous. Short wheel base, high center of gravity and poor grip in snow when it is -5 to -20 C below zero. Those tires may be great in the mud but that does not mean that they will be any good for snow & ice.
 
I drove an entire winter in Wisconsin on the stock RF tires. I only drove when the roads were plowed or just 2-3 inches on the road. Sure the handling sucks, but if you drive smart, you'll be fine. Still, if I was spending another winter in WI (moving to Arizona :tumbleweed: ), I'd surely get snow tires. This way you don't have to be as cautious. Everyone I spoke with around here runs the blizzaks if that's any help.
 
enfield said:
Rick Hunter, agreed - nitrogen is overrated. I am more concerned by the issue of mositure when the rims and tires sit in the garage for 7 months of the year.

Move south! Down here, you won't look at your SUV unless you're driving 4 hours to go skiing!
 
enfield said:
cj10jeeper said:
agree with sp3ctre. We rarely get snow, but when we do chaos ensues.

So I'm ready to escalate the situation:

First season with a Z4 coming up so I'll give it a go and no doubt have great fun

If that fails I'll switch to the X5

...and if all else fails it's one of my Jeeps:

Bring on your worst this year.......

Ground clearence is important but so is grip. You need grip. Winter tires provide more grip due to the design and the rubber compound used. Those jeeps may actually be dangerous. Short wheel base, high center of gravity and poor grip in snow when it is -5 to -20 C below zero. Those tires may be great in the mud but that does not mean that they will be any good for snow & ice.

Enfield - what you say is of course true. High centre of gravity, etc. is not conducive to good on road performance, (relative to a fast road car on a dry road) but that's not the point of my post which is really that if it snows, given a choice the Z4 will stay in the garage. Every aspect of the Z4 makes it poor in snow - rear wheel drive, powerful engine/light rear end, wide tyres and no ground clearance.

Sure the Z4 will do better on snow tyres than standard, but driving on snow in my experience is best on narrow tyres, with ground clearance, 4 wheel drive, manually selectable axle diffs, selectable centre diff, ideally snow tyres, (but sand tyres work as well) and driving as though there we eggs on the pedals... You then really need to decide if you plan to float on the snow or cut through to solid road/ice. All a question of how much snow, how far and how fast you need to go.

BTW - I actually run 5 sets of tyres across the 2 Jeeps depending upon conditions, varying from sand, rock, mud to snow. I regularly enter top flight competitions across the UK & Europe and in the Alps and Pyrenees, and driven one of them to the artic circle and back, so have experienced most problems and conditions. As conditions deteriorate I move to specialist tyres and then onto heavy duty snow chains. Those photos are illustrative - not with the specialist tyres and equipment used.
 
cj10jeeper, I won't be driving my Z4M in the winter. The Bridgestone Blizzacks go on my Infiniti FX45.

http://infiniti.ca/en/fx/index.html

That being said - the Z4M is a TERRIBLE winter car as you point out. RWD, 330 horses, low ground clearence. and a short wheel base to boot! :poke:
 
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