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mr wilks

Lifer
Lancashire
So my reason for non vote was I felt I couldn't win or lose either in or out but I still have questions unanswered
So lets share knowledge available through the brains of the forum & i'l kick off with a few at the front of my mind

1) will all non UK residents have a limited time in UK before they have to leave ? Ie 6 months ?

2) will I as a UK resident only be able to spend a fixed limited time in any European country ?

3) will the planned exchange of driver details for road offences in Europe still go ahead ?

4) could this actually trigger the final demise of the whole Euro experiment ?
 
I think the UK has not yet realised the implication of this vote.

Mainly:
120 billion loss today alone
Huge job uncertainty especially financial and automotive
Biggest growing economy in the world will be devalued
Restricted movement of goods
Tariffs EU wide
Isolation from open markets

The list goes on. The mind boggles.
 
Yes we have lost £120bn but that is only on the stock market and I don't imagine it will be long term. We could recover a lot of that in the next month. Hell, we could recover it next week if market confidence returns after opening EU/UK conversations.

The proper answer is that at this point in time, no one knows the answer to those questions yet. It all depends on what we negotiate with the EU. We're currently talking about keeping things largely the same except we will have more control over the final say in things.

My personal view is that nothing material will change in the medium to long term except that we decide what laws we want to adopt and we get more control over deportations, immigration and who we award benefits to. Trade agreements will be set up on mutually beneficial agreements. Travel concessions will be allowed for UK citizens but we must then reciprocate this by keeping our borders open too.

Still a bit step into the unknown though I feel but not necessarily the wrong decision, it just too soon to tell. We wont even be freed from the EU for a minimum of 2 years anyways as that's how long the leaving process is mandated to take.
 
Grumpyowl said:
Q- if my aunty Angela grew a pair of balls, would she be my uncle Francois ?

If she could grow balls, she'd be so rich, she can be whoever she bloody well wants to be!
 
We may have lost some market capital today, many other countries lost far far more! Look at Japan, Germany, Spain for example, they lost over double on some indexes!
 
it requires a prime minister to start the process of leaving (article 50) and as cameron has said he won't the earliest is october or whenever. then there is a minimum of 2 years to get it sorted. my view is with all the wrangling it will be a decade before everything comes to an end. and you know they say 24 hours is a long time in politics - anything could happen
 
this may be a very stupid question but what is a trade agreement?

if i have a product and somebody wants to buy it then it seems simple, why do i need an agreement by somebody else?
 
In simplest terms, trade agreements set conditions around the exchange of goods/money etc across borders. Without them there are no end of issues with import tax, duty, legalities etc. Think of ordering from Germany on eBay, then ordering from US on eBay. Germany is pain free - no VAT (as tax is set at point of sale), no duty, and an easy transaction. From the US, goods are subject to import tax, duty, administration fees etc by HM customs.

Obviously, the agreements get a lot more complex at country levels - the EU has been trying to negotiate a trade agreement with the US for 10 years. They can be limited by market (i.e. only certain goods), services (UK has been trying to get TTIP limited so it cannot affect services such as the NHS) and other areas.
 
mr wilks said:
So my reason for non vote was I felt I couldn't win or lose either in or out but I still have questions unanswered
So lets share knowledge available through the brains of the forum & i'l kick off with a few at the front of my mind

1) will all non UK residents have a limited time in UK before they have to leave ? Ie 6 months ?

2) will I as a UK resident only be able to spend a fixed limited time in any European country ?

3) will the planned exchange of driver details for road offences in Europe still go ahead ?

4) could this actually trigger the final demise of the whole Euro experiment ?

1) No, only applies to future immigration, not past.
2) Unlikely, there are no limits to non EU countries within Europe now.
3) Bl**dy hope not, as otherwise my trip from last week would bankrupt me :D
4) The old countries would like to leave as they would be funding all the new ones.
 
pvr said:
mr wilks said:
So my reason for non vote was I felt I couldn't win or lose either in or out but I still have questions unanswered
So lets share knowledge available through the brains of the forum & i'l kick off with a few at the front of my mind

1) will all non UK residents have a limited time in UK before they have to leave ? Ie 6 months ?

2) will I as a UK resident only be able to spend a fixed limited time in any European country ?

3) will the planned exchange of driver details for road offences in Europe still go ahead ?

4) could this actually trigger the final demise of the whole Euro experiment ?

1) No, only applies to future immigration, not past.
2) Unlikely, there are no limits to non EU countries within Europe now.
3) Bl**dy hope not, as otherwise my trip from last week would bankrupt me :D
4) The old countries would like to leave as they would be funding all the new ones.

Thanks :thumbsup:
 
Mr wilks, Your first question can be read two ways though:

- Existing non UK people who have lived here for x years.
- New visitors.

I was assuming the first one, but if it is the second one - it would depend on the trade deal including people with the other EU countries as there would not be an automatic freedom of movement.

When I came to the UK in 1988, I had a visa as well in order to work here. That stopped after about a year or so and the requirement was no longer there. I assume it will be like that again if someone comes in, they have to apply for a work visa like the old days and extend that every year (from other EU countries that is).

My interest is now if I can apply for a UK passport as well as my Dutch one, as that would be really handy to have. Would never give up my Dutch one as we have more visa free travel as well as cheaper visas, not to mention it is my Nationality. But for some things in the UK, it is a major pain - like getting your drivers license extended without a UK passport is a major p.i.t.a. as I found out.
 
I'd heard that, for EU citizens, there would be a period of settlement, around 5 years, before new rules would come into place. After that there would need to be reciprocation between countries - personally I believe that we will end up with something like "EU-lite" as an agreement where trade and visa restrictions will be much like they currently are.
 
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