How many?

sammyz said:

I'm suprised that there were so many coupes produced in relation to the roadsters. I'd always thought there were twice as many roadsters to coupes. Still don't know how many roadsters have ended up in the UK though if the ratio stays the same then there must be 650 to 700 roadsters in the UK.

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Funny that as Wiki states:

Production:
In total, only 17,094 Z4 coupés (3.0si and M combined) were ever produced, compared to 180,856 Z4 roadsters.[8]

Of course these are worldwide figures..

Just looking on autotrader there are 643 z4's available at present,

Roughly 555 of this number are roadsters (87%)
Roughly 77 of this number are coupes (12%)

I think that says it all..

Bluestreak56, comment was about proportion of Z4MCs to Z4MRs not all Z4s!

sammyz said:

Bluestreak56, comment was about proportion of Z4MCs to Z4MRs not all Z4s!

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Hey fella - no I totally agree but I looked at it from the overall scale .. if you break it down to M's as well then Im sure the ratio will still be similar? Although I havnt researched this..

if it says there's only 2000 Z4MR's in Europe, 700 sounds about right to me.

That's pretty rare, isnt it ? 8)

This subject fascinates me. The site BMW M Registry gives the following production numbers for the M Coupe:
"How many versions of the E86 M Coupe were produced?
BMW M offered three distinct versions of the E86 M Coupe: European-spec models in both left-hand drive and right-hand drive configurations, plus a single North American-spec version.
How many of each version were produced?
ECE (LHD): 1,652 produced from 4/06 through 7/08 (Plus 65 pre-production examples produced 10/05 through 3/06)
ECE (RHD): 1,054 produced from 4/06 through 6/08 (Plus 1 pre-production example produced 2/06)
NA (LHD): 1,801 produced from 4/06 through 8/08 (Plus 14 pre-production examples produced 10/05 through 4/06)"

Note that the above production numbers come to 4507 worldwide, which is 232 more than the 4275 number usually quoted (and that currently appears on Wikipedia without a proper reference). The North American figure on BMW M Registry is only 14 lower than the Wikipedia number.

If the info Superbow got from BMW UK (see previous page) is correct, then there are (1054-578)= 476 RHD M Coupes outside the UK. These should mostly be in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Japan. I therefore emailed an enquiry to BMW South Africa and received a very friendly phone call in reply today. According to BMW SA, a total of 206 M Coupes and only 95 M Roadsters landed up in this country. Which means the Antipodeans, Japan and everyone else must have shared the remaining (476-206)=270 M Coupes.

As far as the SA numbers go there seems to have been a different trend than in the rest of the world - globally there were slightly more M Roadsters (5239 according to BMW M Registry) than M Coupes. In SA, despite weather that is infinitely more suitable for open top motoring than (most of) the rest of the world, more M coupes were sold than M roadsters. The reason is IMHO simple: crime. An open car is obviously a soft target for a carjacking and much easier to break into even with the top up. Ergo the coupe outsold the roadster here by a factor of more than 2 to 1.

To the forum members in Australia and New Zealand - your cars are even rarer than in the rest of the world. I would love to get accurate figures though, so see what you can find out.

These are rare cars whereever you live! Evo magazine this month has the Z4M coupe as a future classic. 8)

sammyz said:

These are rare cars whereever you live! Evo magazine this month has the Z4M coupe as a future classic. 8)

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Really, I haven't seen it, what page?

Evo's A-Z of the future under 'classics'. Actually now I've re-read it it's all Z4 coupes not just 'M's

davidch said:

I think it's 532 Coupe's in the UK.

I think BMW GB will tell you.

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Completly off subject but you car looks fricken evil in your sig mate with the black CSL's...

In 26 months of ownership I saw my first Z4MC on the road if you excluse the glimses in mirrors of my own. It was a silver one on the M40 something like G4LAD on the plate - doing around 60 in the inside lane!! Probably trying to get his mpg above 25!!

Only other I have seen driving was at silverstone on a track day

Siener2 said:

This subject fascinates me. The site BMW M Registry gives the following production numbers for the M Coupe:
"How many versions of the E86 M Coupe were produced?
BMW M offered three distinct versions of the E86 M Coupe: European-spec models in both left-hand drive and right-hand drive configurations, plus a single North American-spec version.
How many of each version were produced?
ECE (LHD): 1,652 produced from 4/06 through 7/08 (Plus 65 pre-production examples produced 10/05 through 3/06)
ECE (RHD): 1,054 produced from 4/06 through 6/08 (Plus 1 pre-production example produced 2/06)
NA (LHD): 1,801 produced from 4/06 through 8/08 (Plus 14 pre-production examples produced 10/05 through 4/06)"

Note that the above production numbers come to 4507 worldwide, which is 232 more than the 4275 number usually quoted (and that currently appears on Wikipedia without a proper reference). The North American figure on BMW M Registry is only 14 lower than the Wikipedia number.

If the info Superbow got from BMW UK (see previous page) is correct, then there are (1054-578)= 476 RHD M Coupes outside the UK. These should mostly be in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Japan. I therefore emailed an enquiry to BMW South Africa and received a very friendly phone call in reply today. According to BMW SA, a total of 206 M Coupes and only 95 M Roadsters landed up in this country. Which means the Antipodeans, Japan and everyone else must have shared the remaining (476-206)=270 M Coupes.

To the forum members in Australia and New Zealand - your cars are even rarer than in the rest of the world. I would love to get accurate figures though, so see what you can find out.

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Noticed today that my question has been partially answered in this thread - seems there were 103 Z4MC's originally exported to Australia.

The 1054 right hand drive M Coupes were therefore distributed as follows:
UK = 578
South Africa = 206
Australia = 103
New Zealand, Japan and everybody else driving on the left hand side of the road =167

Any Kiwi's on here who are willing to get the equivalent info from BMW New Zealand? Or are you all too busy watching the RWC?

I have the figures as UK 588 out of a total of 1055

flimper said:

I have the figures as UK 588 out of a total of 1055

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My numbers agree with your 1055 total (if the 1 x pre production example is included).
Do you have any confirmation for the 588 in the UK? I got the 578 figure off this post on the first page of this thread.

Interlagos Blue 144
Sapphire Black 120
Silver Grey 72
Imola Red 56
Ruby Black 54
Carbon Black 52
Titanium Silver 26
Alpine White 18
Midnight Blue 17
Monaco Blue 14
Sepang Bronze 10
Phoenix Yellow 3
Space Grey 2
588

Thx flimper, that is great info. Do you perhaps have a reference to the source?

Not sure, but will be on here somewhere or other

i have a copy of an email from BMW uk, unfortunately on another laptop, will post later

Old Taz has been searching and searching for that laptop...

:lol:

i found the email but i can't post it on here, its a table and it doesn't post well, may be the mods could post it?

Can you take a screenshot of it and upload it as a picture Taz?