RPI Exhaust

jrainlay

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New RPI exhaust installed today! Can't get enough of the sight or sound! Significant bonus in weight savings. Stock exhaust = 23 lbs per side, total weight 46 lbs. New RPI exhaust = 8 lbs per side, total weight = 16 lbs. Total weight reduction = 30 lbs. This product is very well built using high quality stainless and the tips shine like jewels! Low pitch, no raspiness and the drone (which really doesn't bother me) is a small price to pay for aural perfection. Before/after sound clips to follow...
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RPI's.... i LOVE them!!!

They turn this burn't metal colour as well when you really get them hot!!

i had the first set of these many many years ago... still today they look fantastic!!!!
 
They don't come as a full system, just back boxes (if you can call them that, they are pretty small).

http://shoprpi.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_22_31_60&products_id=133
 
Here's an interesting image of the OEM muffler (sans fiber packing) that someone posted on another forum. Compare it to the RPI straight pipe. In addition to the 30 lb weight reduction, RPI claims 7 hp gain, but I've never seen any dyno results to substantiate this.
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jrainlay said:
Here's an interesting image of the OEM muffler (sans fiber packing) that someone posted on another forum. Compare it to the RPI straight pipe. In addition to the 30 lb weight reduction, RPI claims 7 hp gain, but I've never seen any dyno results to substantiate this.
StockMuffler.jpg

rpi_eg117_z4.jpg
Looking at the standard exhaust is what I think is called the tuned length,the s bend in the silencer box makes this up,the rpi is not therefore the correct tuned length and may explain why the remus and eisman are a similar shape to the standard and therefore the high prices they charge.
 
Goon has a point... IF the OEM exhaust is truly "tuned." Straight exhaust systems do a good job in clearing exhaust gases from the cylinder, but their vacuuming effect can be a mixed blessing because they don't know when to stop vacuuming and can pull a sizable portion of the fresh charge right out of the cylinder. And since horsepower is a direct function of the air/fuel mass trapped in the cylinder at the onset of the compression stroke, this aspect of a straight exhaust system can have a negative impact on power. Here are some excerpts from the Wikipedia entry for "tuned exhaust:

"A tuned exhaust system is an exhaust system for an internal combustion engine which improves its efficiency by using precise geometry to reflect the pressure waves from the exhaust valve or port back to the valve or port at a particular time in the cycle...In a four-stroke engine, tuned extractor manifolds are used to promote scavenging of the exhaust gases by delivering a pulse of negative pressure just before the exhaust valve closes...the efficiency of the system is greatest at a particular engine speed, which is determined by the exhaust system geometry. Tuning the system for best effect is typically done both by calculation during the design of the exhaust system, and by trial and error during engine development. An important recent development is variable geometry exhaust systems, both for two-stroke and four-stroke engines, which allow the tuning to be effective over a wider range of engine speeds."

There's an interesting animation in the Wikipedia entry that illustrates the tuned exhaust principle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuned_exhaust

That said, you would still need to convince me that the S turns in the OEM exhaust have more to do with tuning than with muffling the sound. Like any exhaust system, the OEM system is a compromise/tradeoff between various interests including 1) the desire to maximize horsepower while 2) muffling the sound. An aftermarket exhaust system like RPI that is less concerned about muffling sound and more concerned with maximizing horsepower (and reducing weight) might do so by removing the S turn restrictions inside the muffler and allow freer flow of exhaust gases. The same can be said for any aftermarket exhaust system including Eisenmann, Stromung, etc. They all tend to be louder because they are less restrictive than OEM.
 
jrainlay said:
Goon has a point... IF the OEM exhaust is truly "tuned." Straight exhaust systems do a good job in clearing exhaust gases from the cylinder, but their vacuuming effect can be a mixed blessing because they don't know when to stop vacuuming and can pull a sizable portion of the fresh charge right out of the cylinder. And since horsepower is a direct function of the air/fuel mass trapped in the cylinder at the onset of the compression stroke, this aspect of a straight exhaust system can have a negative impact on power. Here are some excerpts from the Wikipedia entry for "tuned exhaust:

"A tuned exhaust system is an exhaust system for an internal combustion engine which improves its efficiency by using precise geometry to reflect the pressure waves from the exhaust valve or port back to the valve or port at a particular time in the cycle...In a four-stroke engine, tuned extractor manifolds are used to promote scavenging of the exhaust gases by delivering a pulse of negative pressure just before the exhaust valve closes...the efficiency of the system is greatest at a particular engine speed, which is determined by the exhaust system geometry. Tuning the system for best effect is typically done both by calculation during the design of the exhaust system, and by trial and error during engine development. An important recent development is variable geometry exhaust systems, both for two-stroke and four-stroke engines, which allow the tuning to be effective over a wider range of engine speeds."

There's an interesting animation in the Wikipedia entry that illustrates the tuned exhaust principle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuned_exhaust

That said, you would still need to convince me that the S turns in the OEM exhaust have more to do with tuning than with muffling the sound. Like any exhaust system, the OEM system is a compromise/tradeoff between various interests including 1) the desire to maximize horsepower while 2) muffling the sound. An aftermarket exhaust system like RPI that is less concerned about muffling sound and more concerned with maximizing horsepower (and reducing weight) might do so by removing the S turn restrictions inside the muffler and allow freer flow of exhaust gases. The same can be said for any aftermarket exhaust system including Eisenmann, Stromung, etc. They all tend to be louder because they are less restrictive than OEM.

i dont disagree, but with my FI car, its alll restriction.. i just want Free flow!!! !! !!
 
The OEM exhaust can't be strictly "tuned" because, as the photo of the internals of an OEM silencer shows, gas can escape inside the first chamber and thus take a short cut to the outlet pipe. Likewise, BMW provides a totally different silencing system for the E46 M3 with the same S54 engine: they can't both be tuned to the same length.

The OEM silencers are all about silencing. Free-flow exhausts will generally increase power output because the engine is an air pump and once the air exits the engine any significant pressure in the exhaust system will rob the pump of power created by combustion.
 
exdos said:
The OEM exhaust can't be strictly "tuned" because, as the photo of the internals of an OEM silencer shows, gas can escape inside the first chamber and thus take a short cut to the outlet pipe. Likewise, BMW provides a totally different silencing system for the E46 M3 with the same S54 engine: they can't both be tuned to the same length.

The OEM silencers are all about silencing. Free-flow exhausts will generally increase power output because the engine is an air pump and once the air exits the engine any significant pressure in the exhaust system will rob the pump of power created by combustion.
I was under the impression that the perforated tubes inside the chambers were tightly wrapped with sound absorbing felt etc,but I may be confused now.
 
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