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- Lifer
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That or the Meyle HD, I run those fine, had a little rattle but just needed nipping up.
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Bilstein B4's are basically an OEM replacement shock so it wont be firmer or harder than OEM. THe B4 Sport would in affect be the replacement to the Msport shock and are for cars with lowering springs.
The B6 is an improved performance shock if you want to upgrade.
All are available for your car but i'd be recommending the B6 as fine with Msport suspension and you will find it handle better.
The B6 is an improved performance shock if you want to upgrade.
All are available for your car but i'd be recommending the B6 as fine with Msport suspension and you will find it handle better.
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I ran B6’s on my 2005 M-Sport suspensioned 3.0 SE
They were absolutely perfect... & would go so far as to say you won’t notice they’re uprated, but their composure was way beyond the stock items
They were absolutely perfect... & would go so far as to say you won’t notice they’re uprated, but their composure was way beyond the stock items
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This... I find B6s are definitely firmer but compliance is good and body control in another league.
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- Panta Rhei
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So I am going to couple Eibach pro Kit with Sachs shocks (as Sachs is OEM for our cars) and we will see.
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Let us know how you get on. I don't think that's a broadly tried combination around here...
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And broadly tried combination around here is...?
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Bilsteins or new shocks n springs - it’s the shocks that provide the greatest improvement, new springs are more likely to knacker old shocks
Simply changing the springs
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- MACK
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Let's hope the Sach boge shocks have improved in terms of quality/longevity over the last decade or so. The originals were awful in this respect, many failing at relatively low mileage. hence why so many on here looked to move away from them to bilstein etc
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Correct. Bilstein B4s + New (frequently Suplex) springs.
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I'm confused by 'Sachs Boge'. I know Sachs are what people - particularly sporty Renault - drivers get terribly moist about. But are Sachs Boge the same thing? I suspect not...
To my mind OE suspension is bloody terrible out the box and the last thing I would do is replace like for like...
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Just to clarify, I called Bilstein today and guy said that it is a bad idea to par B4s with Eibachs and any other lower springs, aswell as B6s beacuse this also are standard. He said only B8s will do the job.
On the other hand they just want us to purchase more expensive set ;p
On the other hand they just want us to purchase more expensive set ;p
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Yeah - no one's really come to any hard nosed conclusion with that.
I seem to remember Mack (and a few others) are running the combination and speak highly of it.
I seem to remember Mack (and a few others) are running the combination and speak highly of it.
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The simple fact is Bilstein B4 shocks are suitable for use with springs that lower the car up to 40mm from standard ride height.
Eibachs give a ride height of around 30mm lower than SE height if I remember rightly, so still within tolerance.
As said, I run this combo and have no issues, but then I don't pretend to be a driving God looking for that extra tenth of a second down my local country lane. It handles fine at differing speeds and that's good enough for me
Eibachs give a ride height of around 30mm lower than SE height if I remember rightly, so still within tolerance.
As said, I run this combo and have no issues, but then I don't pretend to be a driving God looking for that extra tenth of a second down my local country lane. It handles fine at differing speeds and that's good enough for me
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- MACK
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Ive got an email from them somewhere saying the opposite and referencing their own literature on this that states what Ben has just reiterated re the lowering 40mm. Personally I've had b4s paired with both SE and Eibach springs and they have been great. Certainly better than the knackered old Sach boge o es that came off. Bilstein themselves do seem to like to muddy the waters on thisPanta Rhei wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:18 pm Just to clarify, I called Bilstein today and guy said that it is a bad idea to par B4s with Eibachs and any other lower springs, aswell as B6s beacuse this also are standard. He said only B8s will do the job.
On the other hand they just want us to purchase more expensive set ;p
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Mods inc - F/L Xenons Clear Ind Rear Lights M Sport Seats & Wheel Eibach/B4 3.64 DIFF (SOLD)
White E89 20i M Sport
Mods inc- B12 kit, M3 Arms, 18" Zito 935's with PS4's, Decat & Remap, Switchable Exhaust Flap (SOLD)