The Magical Sport Button
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vachss said:
Your kidding - it's day and night difference when the 'warp' button is engaged.......
I've retrofitted paddle shift on the auto and in sport mode I can get the DSC light flashing like a strobe. In standard it's way too civilised to allow it.
srhutch said:
While I cannot speak for the ///M - you obviously have not driven a Z with the sport. Simply burying the pedal does not work on a fly by wire throttle. It does not alter the shift points of the box, help the responsivensss, nor the many other changes such as amount of steering assistance, manner in which cruise control performs, etc.
srhutch said:
100% agree here...which I'll admit doesn't make much sense. Afterall, one thinks throttle response...Oh, I'll just step on the gas more...tried it. It's just not the same as with the sport button. It's a world difference.
Out of curiosity, anyone tried 0-60s with sport off then on? Theoretically, it shouldn't make a difference with a good driver...right? But I think it would make a difference in times for me :roll:
Someone needs to show some dyno numbers of time slips before I will give any credence to the notion that there is more power with the sport button. Time slips might show a difference for owners with automatics just because of the shifting advantages but not because of power differences. I see no credibility in "butt dyno" impressions at all.
Out on the track I prefer no sport button because its easier to modulate the throttle in the turns without it.
Out on the track I prefer no sport button because its easier to modulate the throttle in the turns without it.
AlanL said:
Don't even think it'd be worth the dyno time. Throttle response should have zero effect on power output. HOWEVER, the throttle response certainly will change how the car behaves and ultimately performs. So in the hands of an inexperienced driver (such as myself), I think you might actually see a difference. I'd just be curious to see if anyone has tried it.
Then again, any difference could also be a plecebo effect for us newbies
It may be inthe .01 side of a difference :idunno: , but I have always turned mine on at the drag strip. Anything to reduce the time to get from point A to point B is good in my bookAlanL said:
Make sure the DSC/AST is off!
And before I get a snide remark,,,,Mine has been on the drag stip quite a few times
Let me clarify my comment in that I agree that I doubt that the sport button makes any difference to engine power output. I was specifically referring to an auto box where it changes the shift points and aggresiveness of the changes and thus makes considerable difference to the acceleration.
On manual unless it's also changing some engine mapping then I doubt it makes any difference whatsoever to it
On manual unless it's also changing some engine mapping then I doubt it makes any difference whatsoever to it
I think I would agree on that point - anything that alters (for the better) how the auto handles it's shifting is not a trivial difference by any means. I did mention that point in my post too. I have had lots of students out on the track with autos and when the transmissions misbehave it can really ruin your track experience and makes it very hard for me to teach someone how to have fun out on the track. It's no fun trying to second guess a transmission instead of simply getting to drive your car. If the button tightens up when/where the tranny shifts and lets you run higher revs without shifting too soon then that has to be a Good Thing(TM) in my book.
For those of us with manuals the effect of the button is far less. I could see it possibly being an aid for the drag strip, but I only run my car at road tracks with right and left turns. As with anything we do with our cars - YMMV
For those of us with manuals the effect of the button is far less. I could see it possibly being an aid for the drag strip, but I only run my car at road tracks with right and left turns. As with anything we do with our cars - YMMV
cj10jeeper said:
On a manual you can still feel the difference, and the pickup is a lot quicker with sport mode on, as you mentioned in an earlier post with fly by wire it's all to do with the black box, yes no extra power, but the delay in getting the power back on is reduced.
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