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Will the 23i be enough
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Will the 23i be enough
So, it’s been a long while since I owned a z4, last one being purchased from a member here, a 3.0si..
I’ve owned a 2.5 e85, and always felt it was a little underpowered so when the opertunity to purchase a 3.0si I jumped at it. Now I owned the 3.0 for only around 8 months and whilst it was quicker than the 2.5 I never really felt it was that quick. I always assumed that was due to being na and no turbo, although once going it was ok.
So, my dilemma, I sold the 3.0 to move to a 4 door vert, which ended up being a e93.
Now when looking I should have just stuck to a 330, but got seduced by a 325d that had been mapped.
Whilst this is a nice car, I’ve been noticing more and more that I really fancy a new shape z4. I don’t really need the 4 seats and I only use the car as a weekend drive.
I’ve seen a nice mspec 2.3 in white on with red leather going around my price bracket,(£8500). My only issue is the power, will it be adequate, any owners on here with this engine give me some feedback?
I’m not hung up on the power, but don’t want something that’s really slow as well.
I also don’t want to waste buyers time test driving one either as it seems unfair, although I know I will have to if I get to the point of viewing.
Thanks Daz
I’ve owned a 2.5 e85, and always felt it was a little underpowered so when the opertunity to purchase a 3.0si I jumped at it. Now I owned the 3.0 for only around 8 months and whilst it was quicker than the 2.5 I never really felt it was that quick. I always assumed that was due to being na and no turbo, although once going it was ok.
So, my dilemma, I sold the 3.0 to move to a 4 door vert, which ended up being a e93.
Now when looking I should have just stuck to a 330, but got seduced by a 325d that had been mapped.
Whilst this is a nice car, I’ve been noticing more and more that I really fancy a new shape z4. I don’t really need the 4 seats and I only use the car as a weekend drive.
I’ve seen a nice mspec 2.3 in white on with red leather going around my price bracket,(£8500). My only issue is the power, will it be adequate, any owners on here with this engine give me some feedback?
I’m not hung up on the power, but don’t want something that’s really slow as well.
I also don’t want to waste buyers time test driving one either as it seems unfair, although I know I will have to if I get to the point of viewing.
Thanks Daz
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Will the 23i be enough
Hi, not sure what model your e85 2.5 was but the 23i uses the n52 2.5 engine, if you had a 2.5si it would have been a little quicker than the 23i
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It was an 03 so not the 2.5si engine.
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Was the 3.0si quick enough? A quick search indicates 6.0s to 62mph vs 6.6s on the 23i.
3.0si: 130ps / tonne
23i: 125ps / tonne
Is modding / remapping an option?
3.0si: 130ps / tonne
23i: 125ps / tonne
Is modding / remapping an option?
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To be honest, the 30si was quick enough yes, I thought it would be quicker to be honest, and the 325d I have now is as quick, so I don’t really think it should be about power only.
I’d like to hear from a couple of owners especially if they’ve had something quicker if they ever feel they should have got say a 3.0 or 35i.
If I push my budget, I can get a low mileage 35i albeit it has been a cat c car, which doesn’t concern me as much as the potential running costs of one.
Thanks Daz
I’d like to hear from a couple of owners especially if they’ve had something quicker if they ever feel they should have got say a 3.0 or 35i.
If I push my budget, I can get a low mileage 35i albeit it has been a cat c car, which doesn’t concern me as much as the potential running costs of one.
Thanks Daz
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It depends what you want from a car.
We have had our 23i for nearly four and a half years and only rarely want more power.
It does everything we want it to do without costing a fortune.
Our X6 on paper is faster but owning the Z4 for us is not about speed.
We have had our 23i for nearly four and a half years and only rarely want more power.
It does everything we want it to do without costing a fortune.
Our X6 on paper is faster but owning the Z4 for us is not about speed.
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I think if you go for the 2.3I you may regret it when it comes to those fun times, the extra 50ish ponies and torques of the 3.0 really do make a difference imo.
E85 3.0si = 261hp/1310kg = 199hp per ton
E89 2.3I = 201hp/1405kg = 143 per ton
Big difference between the two
Dunno where you got those numbers from but...
E85 3.0si = 261hp/1310kg = 199hp per ton
E89 2.3I = 201hp/1405kg = 143 per ton
Big difference between the two
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Thanks all, nictrix, I agree with what your saying, in fairness these days your always only minutes away from speed cameras etc, i think I could live with the slight loss in performance as I think the looks on the e89 are really nice, especially the msport styling. Does the satnav/I drive system a must?
I have the old version I drive in my e93, but feel it’s not really required and is just a extra thing to look at especially as the maps are 2008
I have the old version I drive in my e93, but feel it’s not really required and is just a extra thing to look at especially as the maps are 2008
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Dont have nav in the Z and just use a phone if needed instead.
If the nav in the Z is anything like the X6, Im not really missing anything as its not great. But the idrive is not just about nav, theres a lot more to it and even just the music storage and ease of use over the normal stereo would make me go for one with nav next time.
If the nav in the Z is anything like the X6, Im not really missing anything as its not great. But the idrive is not just about nav, theres a lot more to it and even just the music storage and ease of use over the normal stereo would make me go for one with nav next time.
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Ive had a 23i , 90% of the time they are perfectly capable of satisfying the driver but if you want to feel any momentum or enjoy ragging it through some twisties braking in then hammering out you will feel let down as they (89s in general) are in no way as sharp a tool as the 85s / 86s that can still thrill with less power .
A great way of enjoying a modern 2 seat coupe / roadster Bmw for a budget spend though or cough up more £££ & buy more ooomph
A great way of enjoying a modern 2 seat coupe / roadster Bmw for a budget spend though or cough up more £££ & buy more ooomph
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I think if you were disappointed with your 2.5 litre E85 you might be equally disspointed by a 23i.bazzab wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:48 pmTo be honest, the 30si was quick enough yes, I thought it would be quicker to be honest, and the 325d I have now is as quick, so I don’t really think it should be about power only.
I’d like to hear from a couple of owners especially if they’ve had something quicker if they ever feel they should have got say a 3.0 or 35i.
If I push my budget, I can get a low mileage 35i albeit it has been a cat c car, which doesn’t concern me as much as the potential running costs of one.
Thanks Daz
You say a Cat C 35i might be an option, but wouldn't a 30i fit the bill? Same N52 engine as your 3.0Si.
Good luck anyway.
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Glad you commented mr Wilkes, if it was used more I’d love to put more to it, but I run it on a tight budget servicing myself to keep costs down etc.
I think I might have to look at saving a little more
I think I might have to look at saving a little more
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Have you driven a E89 yet ? Again jmo & not meant to talk the na 6 cylinders down but if you want to feel some poke but don't want to throw £12 / £13k into a leggy 35i i would give consideration to a 20i 60k-70k car choose well with regard stamped oil services & add a remap you would have a car that felt much quicker than a 262 na car even if on paper the numbers were a little less
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Have you driven a E89 yet ? Again jmo & not meant to talk the na 6 cylinders down but if you want to feel some poke but don't want to throw £12 / £13k into a leggy 35i i would give consideration to a 20i 60k-70k car choose well with regard stamped oil services & add a remap you would have a car that felt much quicker than a 262 na car even if on paper the numbers were a little lessmr wilks wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:35 pm [quote=bazzab post_id=<a href="tel:1491523">1491523</a> time=<a href="tel:1512332986">1512332986</a> user_id=12444]
Glad you commented mr Wilkes, if it was used more I’d love to put more to it, but I run it on a tight budget servicing myself to keep costs down etc.
I think I might have to look at saving a little more
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Not driven one at all, the 2.0 would fit but the reason for looking at the 2.3 was the price.
Think the cheapest nice 2.0 I’ve seen was around 10k and was cat d.
Is the drive nice in the e89?
What about creature comforts such as the I drive/satnav?
Thanks all for commenting