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I wasn't previously aware of all of this conspiracy theory stuff.
Re the filing cabinets, perhaps it was a paperless office? There's about 1,500 of us in our office and barely a filing cabinet. Has anyone definitively confirmed that there were filing cabinets there?
Alternatively this could be the biggest diversionary tactic in the history of crime: fly a couple of planes into an office block whilst we steal the filing cabinets!
Re the filing cabinets, perhaps it was a paperless office? There's about 1,500 of us in our office and barely a filing cabinet. Has anyone definitively confirmed that there were filing cabinets there?
Alternatively this could be the biggest diversionary tactic in the history of crime: fly a couple of planes into an office block whilst we steal the filing cabinets!
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Only one cabinet was found amongst what should have been thousands https://youtu.be/mh18dip7Z5MRickRob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:55 am I wasn't previously aware of all of this conspiracy theory stuff.
Re the filing cabinets, perhaps it was a paperless office? There's about 1,500 of us in our office and barely a filing cabinet. Has anyone definitively confirmed that there were filing cabinets there?
Alternatively this could be the biggest diversionary tactic in the history of crime: fly a couple of planes into an office block whilst we steal the filing cabinets!
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It’s also used to weld rails together on the underground, keeps you nice & warm in the winter!TitanTim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:17 amInterestingly Thermite is made up of Aluminium and iron oxide and may explain why molten aluminium was seen cascading out of one side of the towers, would make sense as it produces very high temperatures of more than 2887 degrees Celsius in a very short time and is coincidently used in pyrotechnicsNictrix wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:00 amThermite has been mentioned to me a few times.TitanTim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:59 pm
Well known that the fire temps were no where near what would have been required to melt the steel supports, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXYyW9mjfVE
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What I find interesting is the psychology involved in outwardly rational, intelligent people needing to find conspiracy theories in any tragic, unexpected or shocking event. The twin towers, JFK assassination, Marilyn`s death.... All surrounded by conspiracy theories. The truth is out there, but I'm afraid it's a lot more humdrum than the theorists would have you believe. It's the same thought process that gives us religion - the need of the human mind to ascribe reason, order and explanation to the world and events. Tragedies and weird stuff just happen, accept it.
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Kinda human nature though when the obvious looks the opposite. I'm all ears when it's rational experts in on the mix.z4pilot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:55 am What I find interesting is the psychology involved in outwardly rational, intelligent people needing to find conspiracy theories in any tragic, unexpected or shocking event. The twin towers, JFK assassination, Marilyn`s death.... All surrounded by conspiracy theories. The truth is out there, but I'm afraid it's a lot more humdrum than the theorists would have you believe. It's the same thought process that gives us religion - the need of the human mind to ascribe reason, order and explanation to the world and events. Tragedies and weird stuff just happen, accept it.
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Isn't used for underwater welding as well?Smartbear wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:44 amIt’s also used to weld rails together on the underground, keeps you nice & warm in the winter!TitanTim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:17 amInterestingly Thermite is made up of Aluminium and iron oxide and may explain why molten aluminium was seen cascading out of one side of the towers, would make sense as it produces very high temperatures of more than 2887 degrees Celsius in a very short time and is coincidently used in pyrotechnics
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Agh yes, conspiracy theories. All ridiculous until proven to be true.
Don’t forget hillsborough, an event that the powers that be managed to cover up for a while. You all watched the footage I’m sure and I’m sure many of us also went along with the “official” narrative.
I’m guessing the Iraq war was also about the WMD (official narrative) and definitely not about oil.
I would love to believe the twin towers official narrative but imo the “facts” simply don’t stack up.
Don’t forget hillsborough, an event that the powers that be managed to cover up for a while. You all watched the footage I’m sure and I’m sure many of us also went along with the “official” narrative.
I’m guessing the Iraq war was also about the WMD (official narrative) and definitely not about oil.
I would love to believe the twin towers official narrative but imo the “facts” simply don’t stack up.
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33-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-truez4pilot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:55 am What I find interesting is the psychology involved in outwardly rational, intelligent people needing to find conspiracy theories in any tragic, unexpected or shocking event. The twin towers, JFK assassination, Marilyn`s death.... All surrounded by conspiracy theories. The truth is out there, but I'm afraid it's a lot more humdrum than the theorists would have you believe. It's the same thought process that gives us religion - the need of the human mind to ascribe reason, order and explanation to the world and events. Tragedies and weird stuff just happen, accept it.
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Those who are unwilling to question official accounts and take whatever the government and media tell them at face value despite historical 'facts' being revealed as lies and half truths time and again, will lump all conspiracy theorists together because its simpler and protects their worldview.
So if you query the official 9/11 story, then you are dismissed as one of those loony ‘Fake moon landing / Flat-earther’ types, when in fact you are simply struggling to make sense of the official explanation based upon the available facts.
I defy anyone who has investigated 9/11 with an open mind and listened to the numerous structural engineers and architects who categorically state that the towers could not possibly have collapsed as a result of the planes impact and resulting fires, and that furthermore the near ‘free-fall’ collapse is only explainable by controlled explosion, not to seriously question the official story.
So if you query the official 9/11 story, then you are dismissed as one of those loony ‘Fake moon landing / Flat-earther’ types, when in fact you are simply struggling to make sense of the official explanation based upon the available facts.
I defy anyone who has investigated 9/11 with an open mind and listened to the numerous structural engineers and architects who categorically state that the towers could not possibly have collapsed as a result of the planes impact and resulting fires, and that furthermore the near ‘free-fall’ collapse is only explainable by controlled explosion, not to seriously question the official story.
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Whilst I’m not disregarding conspiracy theories, surely an explosion of enough magnitude to bring these towers down would have been heard, flashes seen on detonation? To be 100% sure of a successful demolition there would have to be explosives on all sides near the ground, I can’t believe it wouldn’t have been seen or heard..?Marlon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:25 pm
I defy anyone who has investigated 9/11 with an open mind and listened to the numerous structural engineers and architects who categorically state that the towers could not possibly have collapsed as a result of the planes impact and resulting fires, and that furthermore the near ‘free-fall’ collapse is only explainable by controlled explosion, not to seriously question the official story.
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There are thousands of reports by witnesses of explosions taking place such as thesejohn-e89 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:18 amWhilst I’m not disregarding conspiracy theories, surely an explosion of enough magnitude to bring these towers down would have been heard, flashes seen on detonation? To be 100% sure of a successful demolition there would have to be explosives on all sides near the ground, I can’t believe it wouldn’t have been seen or heard..?Marlon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:25 pm
I defy anyone who has investigated 9/11 with an open mind and listened to the numerous structural engineers and architects who categorically state that the towers could not possibly have collapsed as a result of the planes impact and resulting fires, and that furthermore the near ‘free-fall’ collapse is only explainable by controlled explosion, not to seriously question the official story.
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I think it's beyond doubt something else brought the towers down after all these were immensely strong structures originally designed to withstand multiple jet airliner hits. I can't honestly believe an aircraft made of aluminium would have the capability to do the damage it did. The video I originally posted is the eye opener for me as the buildings didn't just collapse they turned to dust in the air. Explosions possibly helped but the idea of a free energy weapon being used that we don't understand must be something to be explored. There's far too many questions than answers and the fact that respected people in their field suspect some weapon of some kind was used boggles the mind and why it was done.
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Why is another excellent question. One theory is that war = money. In order to justify war it needs, in part, public backing. To gain public backing the population needs to have something to fear. The fear and threat of terrorism pre and post 9/11 are night and day. This enhanced fear of a terrorist organisation was later taken advantage of as a driving tool to infiltrate Afghanistan and then later Iraq. In fact, Al Quaeda pre 9/11 didn't exist as a formal organisation. It was a creation by the Americans to label a network of terrorist sleeper cells throughout America and the rest of the world which was never proven to exist, and the term 'Al Quaeda' was never knowingly used by Bin Laden until after 9/11 when he learned that it was the term the Americans had given it. It went on to be an idea that inspired radicalization and terrorist acts which eventually mutated into what we know today. The war in Iraq was used as the justification for the formation of the intensely extreme groups of today, and all could have been avoided.
An excellent hour long BBC documentary post 9/11 pre 7/7 can be found here:
https://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/v ... cs_of_fear
And a full transcript of the documentary can be found here:
https://www.wanttoknow.info/war/power_o ... anscript_3
An excellent hour long BBC documentary post 9/11 pre 7/7 can be found here:
https://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/v ... cs_of_fear
And a full transcript of the documentary can be found here:
https://www.wanttoknow.info/war/power_o ... anscript_3
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Are you seriously trying to tell me that the people needed to carry out dropping two towers, from the initial conversations, final decisions, planning, pilots, to execution of demolition equipment and trigger pulling all happily went along with the murder of 3odd thousand people as though it was nothing special and no one has blabbed etc? You would need a big group of psychopaths all capable of mass murder from several different trades and officials. Really???????
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