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Daft oil change question
- Gustavo7
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Re: Daft oil change question
I bought mine just off an inspection 2 with 12.000mls to go before an Oil service.
For peace of mind, I changed the oil myself a week later - used teh recommended Castrol TWS 10w60.
7000 miles down the line and yesterday I had again an oil and brake fluid service done at BMsport - in order to get the service book stamped.
And I still had 4000 miles to go to the next Oil Service.
I understand if people religiously adhere to the service intervals but it impresses me that some M owners are not even using the recommended oil and opt for a "cheaper" alternative.
For peace of mind, I changed the oil myself a week later - used teh recommended Castrol TWS 10w60.
7000 miles down the line and yesterday I had again an oil and brake fluid service done at BMsport - in order to get the service book stamped.
And I still had 4000 miles to go to the next Oil Service.
I understand if people religiously adhere to the service intervals but it impresses me that some M owners are not even using the recommended oil and opt for a "cheaper" alternative.
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Re: Daft oil change question
Which M owner has mentioned using cheaper oilGustavo7 wrote: it impresses me that some M owners are not even using the recommended oil and opt for a "cheaper" alternative.
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Re: Daft oil change question
Let me rephrase that:
it impresses me that some sports car owners are not even using the best possible oil and opt for a "cheaper" alternative.
it impresses me that some sports car owners are not even using the best possible oil and opt for a "cheaper" alternative.
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Re: Daft oil change question
Assuming you refer to "scooba steve" i can actually see his point of view regarding using a cheaper(but correct spec) oil changed every 5k against manufacturers recognised oil left in possibly 3 X longerGustavo7 wrote:Let me rephrase that:
it impresses me that some sports car owners are not even using the best possible oil and opt for a "cheaper" alternative.
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- Gustavo7
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Re: Daft oil change question
I can see the point of changing every 5k miles instead of 15k.
But how much would one actually save for doing that with a cheaper oil?
I'm not saying that cheaper cannot be as good. But might not be, and if the manufacturers recommend a certain oil, why not use that one instead of trying to save £60 every 15.000 miles? (assuming a saving of £20 in every oil change)
I'm really not trying to be a snob here. But I really can't understand when people drive sports cars and try to save on oil (and tyres.)
But how much would one actually save for doing that with a cheaper oil?
I'm not saying that cheaper cannot be as good. But might not be, and if the manufacturers recommend a certain oil, why not use that one instead of trying to save £60 every 15.000 miles? (assuming a saving of £20 in every oil change)
I'm really not trying to be a snob here. But I really can't understand when people drive sports cars and try to save on oil (and tyres.)
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Re: Daft oil change question
It's surely a no brainer, use the best oil available no matter the cost as it protects arguably the most important component on a vehicle, and even the most expensive oil doesn't cost as much as a full tank of fuel which you could easily use up in a day and the oil does it's job for an average of 12-15k miles. For the job it does it's virtually free.
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Re: Daft oil change question
I have always used good quality oils in my cars or bikes and always will but there are people who say that you are paying for the brand name and that a lot of the cheaper oils are actually made by the bigger companys.
I suppose its the same argument as the petrol one whether or not the cheaper supermarket fuels are the same or not.
I suppose its the same argument as the petrol one whether or not the cheaper supermarket fuels are the same or not.
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Re: Daft oil change question
In most cars (and motorcycles come to that), I would be happy using cheaper fully synthetic oils. I've used the Halfords fully synthetic oils in many vehicles and never had a problem. They are usually produced by comma (an Exxon / Mobil company) and can be ridiculously cheap, especially with a trade card.
On the S54, I stick with the recommended Castrol TWS oil, given that it was developed with the factory M engineers at the time when the earlier issues that the motor had in the E46 M3, were prevalent. Given the unique complexities of the M diff, I would also stick to their recommendation on this.
But it's a personal choice. Others swear by Redline products, or oils with more zinc in them. I don't really have enough experience so will take the easy option and put my faith in BMWs engineers on this one.
On a car that's regularly tracked or putting out significantly more power, I would deffo change the oil on a more regular basis.
On the S54, I stick with the recommended Castrol TWS oil, given that it was developed with the factory M engineers at the time when the earlier issues that the motor had in the E46 M3, were prevalent. Given the unique complexities of the M diff, I would also stick to their recommendation on this.
But it's a personal choice. Others swear by Redline products, or oils with more zinc in them. I don't really have enough experience so will take the easy option and put my faith in BMWs engineers on this one.
On a car that's regularly tracked or putting out significantly more power, I would deffo change the oil on a more regular basis.
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Re: Daft oil change question
Right, a few weeks now until I need to do it....
Found this from Opie http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pv-154179-cas ... mentNotes=
However, I enquired about whether the drain bolt crush washer was included, as no reference to it.
Received this back from Tim...."It will have all of the O-rings and should have the crush washer too (although I wouldn't guarantee there will be a washer)"
Not exactly clear! Has anyone ordered this kit that could advise please?
Matt
Found this from Opie http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pv-154179-cas ... mentNotes=
However, I enquired about whether the drain bolt crush washer was included, as no reference to it.
Received this back from Tim...."It will have all of the O-rings and should have the crush washer too (although I wouldn't guarantee there will be a washer)"
Not exactly clear! Has anyone ordered this kit that could advise please?
Matt
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Re: Daft oil change question
I get a MANN oil filter from ECP/CarParts4Less - that includes both 'o' rings and a crush washer. Plus they're about £5 - I recall looking at Opie's kits and not thinking they were good value.
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Re: Daft oil change question
Cheers Steve, will get the filter from ECP and then just the oil from opieScooba_Steve wrote:I get a MANN oil filter from ECP/CarParts4Less - that includes both 'o' rings and a crush washer. Plus they're about £5 - I recall looking at Opie's kits and not thinking they were good value.
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Re: Daft oil change question
Will this be the first outing of the jack then?
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Re: Daft oil change question
I take it the kits are a bit more? I can't remember but I don't need a paper funnel and gloves...!mj2k wrote:Cheers Steve, will get the filter from ECP and then just the oil from opieScooba_Steve wrote:I get a MANN oil filter from ECP/CarParts4Less - that includes both 'o' rings and a crush washer. Plus they're about £5 - I recall looking at Opie's kits and not thinking they were good value.
CP4L are usually cheaper on ebay rather than their site - unless you're getting the discount for 50/75/100+ spend. Poly RTABs are only £40
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Re: Daft oil change question
If it is - good lad, DIY is the mark of a loving ownerpvr wrote:Will this be the first outing of the jack then?
Tips (excuse teaching to suck eggs):
Don't rush
Don't get squashed
For an oil change I jack up onto ramps one side at a time. If I'm honest you can probably get away with just doing one side, though I found some 'wiggling' was needed each side to get the last little bit out.
Don't get a 14L pan like I did... you can't lower the car onto it!
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Re: Daft oil change question
Corrected that for youScooba_Steve wrote:If it is - good lad, DIY is the mark of a loving ownerpvr wrote:Will this be the first outing of the jack then?
Tips (excuse teaching to suck eggs):
Don't rush
Don't get squashed
Do make a will - leave everything to PVR
For an oil change I jack up onto ramps one side at a time. If I'm honest you can probably get away with just doing one side, though I found some 'wiggling' was needed each side to get the last little bit out.
Don't get a 14L pan like I did... you can't lower the car onto it!
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911-50 Black - unique spec
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Abarth 595 Comp.
Golf Clipper - collectors item
Z4 3.0si Black Sapphire
VW ID.3
Previous:
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