3.0L Starter Motor

[chanlon1]

Bought a Denso Starter Motor some time ago with the view that I would install it eventually.
I think that day has come..........
In my trials and tribulations of trying to sort out a brake pad sensor light, I tried to restart the car and heard quite a bit of clicking noises but no cranking.
Took the key out and tried again. This time nothing happened....no noises.

Is this likely to be the starter motor?
Up to now the car had been getting a bit harder and harder to start.

Think I need to watch a few videos now and how to install a new motor....and guidance and advice is welcome.
Also, any bizarre tools etc needed?

[Zedebee]

First, make sure it’s not your battery dying. Next, it’s probably the starter motor. I think it’s a bit harder to replace on the N52 than the M54 (which is quite easy on a 2.5i) but there is plenty written about it on this forum. The M54 requires a female torx spanner, I expect N52 is the same. I have a set like this, one of them fits.

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[chanlon1]

Battery I believe is good. An auto electrician checked it not that long ago and said that it was good. Plus it’s only a year old.
Some guides say to remove the manifold, others say you don’t need to. I guess I won’t know for sure till I take a look. Not sure I will be wanting to tomorrow with Storm Kathleen rolling in….

[enuff_zed]

Unbolt the manifold and disconnect the electrical connection at the front. This should give you enough room to lift the front end of the manifold and get at the starter by sliding your hands in from the front end

[chanlon1]

Unbolt the manifold and disconnect the electrical connection at the front. This should give you enough room to lift the front end of the manifold and get at the starter by sliding your hands in from the front end

Thanks
Are there gaskets I need to replace? Also any bolts that need replacing or can everything be reused?
Wondering if I need to go on a parts ordering jaunt before starting…..

[enuff_zed]

Unbolt the manifold and disconnect the electrical connection at the front. This should give you enough room to lift the front end of the manifold and get at the starter by sliding your hands in from the front end

Thanks
Are there gaskets I need to replace? Also any bolts that need replacing or can everything be reused?
Wondering if I need to go on a parts ordering jaunt before starting…..

Ideally replace the six manifold gaskets

[chanlon1]

Ideally replace the six manifold gaskets

Ta. Any bolts need replacing or can they be reused?

[enuff_zed]

Ideally replace the six manifold gaskets

Ta. Any bolts need replacing or can they be reused?

The new starter should come with replacement bolts.

[Zedebee]

The bolts are aluminium on the N52 because they screw into the magnesium crankcase. They can’t be reused. As enuff says, you should get new ones with the starter motor. Torque on both bolts is 38Nm.

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[chanlon1]

The bolts are aluminium on the N52 because they screw into the magnesium crankcase. They can’t be reused. As enuff says, you should get new ones with the starter motor. Torque on both bolts is 38Nm.

Thanks. What about the nut that holds the red cables? Torque on it?

I have the same motor that pvr got, but fairly sure there wasn’t any bolts with it. Paul, any come with yours?

[enuff_zed]

The bolts are aluminium on the N52 because they screw into the magnesium crankcase. They can’t be reused. As enuff says, you should get new ones with the starter motor. Torque on both bolts is 38Nm.

Thanks. What about the nut that holds the red cables? Torque on it?

I have the same motor that pvr got, but fairly sure there wasn’t any bolts with it. Paul, any come with yours?

Paul supplied me with the bolts to fit it. I assumed they came with it, but maybe they were separate?

Cable nut torque is 13Nm

[chanlon1]

Paul supplied me with the bolts to fit it. I assumed they came with it, but maybe they were separate?

Cable nut torque is 13Nm

We will await Paul’s cultural wit as to where he gets his nuts and bolts from…….

[pvr]

It came complete with the starter (edit - no it didn’t) did you get the Denso as well? I see they have really gone up in price now

[pvr]

Correction - I bought them from the dealer together with the gaskets

[chanlon1]

It came complete with the starter (edit - no it didn’t) did you get the Denso as well? I see they have really gone up in price now

Yeah I got the Denso aswell.
I see they are £169 today. When I bought it at the start of January it was £119. Not sure if there was a discount though.
Will start my search for the gasket and bolts. Will also need to source bolts for the manifold as well.