Hill start

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:41 pm

On my M, I have the hill start function. Great, but why does it release after 5 seconds?

At the end of my road, I stop on the hill - and the hill start function holds the car there nicely. But if I can't pull away within 5 seconds - suddenly, the car will shoot backwards. Bit frightening the first time though ...

What would be the reason?

Post by **sp3ctre** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:42 pm

Clutch burnout? S'pose it expects you to use the handbrake if you're gonna dick about on a hill

WLH · Post by **WLH** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:43 pm

What if you did want to roll backwards for some reason. Not sure why you would want to but????

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:46 pm

On the only other car I have used with hill start, it works as I expect: It is on until you have generated enough torque to pull away.

Oh - and it works on the brakes - not clutch ...

WLH - If you would want to go back - you would use the reverse

Post by **sp3ctre** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:48 pm

pvr wrote:Oh - and it works on the brakes - not clutch ...

oops, looks like I was wrong then... deffo heard somewhere that it uses the clutch

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:49 pm

We have all sorts of toys on our brakes ... drying, pre-tension etc etc.

Only M of course

Color · Post by **Color** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:50 pm

Maybe in case you don't want to go forward, but just rollbackwards without going in reverse?? Would be impossible to roll backwards otherwise (without putting the car into gear).

I've found myself waiting for it to release a couple of times to roll backwards . . .

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:51 pm

As rolling would not be "allowed" as part of your driving training, I can't imagine that they would design it for that.

inTgr8r · Post by **inTgr8r** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:51 pm

It's not meant to hold the car while stopped....
Hill hold is a transition function....
Holds the brake while you move your foot from brake to the throttle.

While stopped, you should still have your foot on the brake.
When you're ready to go just move it over...

pvr · Post by **pvr** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:05 pm

ah, I see ... Still prefer the VW system though which works as I expect it to do ...

ovrkll · Post by **ovrkll** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:34 pm

It is only there to give you time to transition from a stop to forward motion without having the car roll backwards. Especially useful if you are on a steep hill and are stopped with a vehicle right behind on your bumper.

AlanL · Post by **AlanL** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:25 am

It does offer gobs of time to transition from the brakes to startup if you simply use it for getting started. I have been delighted with the feature.

fire-n-ice · Post by **fire-n-ice** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:32 am

ovrkll wrote:It is only there to give you time to transition from a stop to forward motion without having the car roll backwards. Especially useful if you are on a steep hill and are stopped with a vehicle right behind on your bumper.

I'll tell ya, I'd like to have that function from time to time. With folks riding right on your ASS these days, it would come in handy on steep hills. Fortunately, I'm a good enough manual driver where I haven't had a problem

Rick Hunter · Post by **Rick Hunter** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:20 am

It works in reverse too, if you haven't noticed yet.

AlanL · Post by **AlanL** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:47 am

I have noticed - very nice addition for backing into my driveway I might add

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