Avon ZZ3's

[martinb1966]

had them on my max modded tt when i changed alloys not a great tyre to be honest a bit vague in the dry on cornering and damn dangerous in the wet they sent me aqua planing in sweden on a really good road would never recommend them to anyone

[peddy]

...in fact, it was the poor feedback from the car which stopped the tyres reaching their full potential!

Is this why the steering feels so light?

TBH Worst comes to worse I can sell this set with the tyres after I refurb my other set and then fit the Hankooks.

[AlanJ]

my address was flagged as fraudulent.
Even after giving the phone to my father as the guy at camskill remembered his accent they still wouldn't except the order. They were just not having any of it.

I guess they live in a world where misunderstandings have never happened before.

Anyways a big from me!

not good, Never used them myself but after hearing that i will probably be unlikly too

About to get some new tyres for my wife's 325 - NOT WITH CAMSKILL!

[lacroupade]

Well I ended up getting them in the end... I couldn't wait until the new year TBH. Will report back once the tyres have warn in a little...

lacroupade, They called yesterday morning and my father answered. There was a little misunderstanding and he thought they said tiles (my father's a property developer).

The camskill guy never mentioned my name or any further details and before you know it without the guy looking into it further he canceled the order. There were no emails sent to me to say it had been cancelled or anything.

I emailed them last night (not knowing at the time what had happened in the morning) in the evening as I never received a tracking number. They replied the next morning to explain that they called and the man who they spoke to didn't know anything about the order. Called up to explain the situation and they said I couldn't place an order with them anymore because my address was flagged as fraudulent.
Even after giving the phone to my father as the guy at camskill remembered his accent they still wouldn't except the order. They were just not having any of it.

I guess they live in a world where misunderstandings have never happened before.

Anyways a big from me!

Mmmm thats a shame.....in their defence, having entered the brutal world of online supply ourselves, if they do ship to a dodgy customer and theres subsequently a problem with payment say, then the card company just shafts them and its a total loss as far as they are concerned, so you can understand their perspective...and much as one would like to give people the benefit of the doubt after any confusion the fact is the seeds are sown, and the real crims are obviously incredibly convincing as well, so putting it right is difficult. Hope you get your tyres sorted though

[peddy]

lacroupade, they should take payment and once cleared they should then dispatch, so I don't really agree with you there... Unless I'm missing something?

[lacroupade]

lacroupade, they should take payment and once cleared they should then dispatch, so I don't really agree with you there... Unless I'm missing something?

"cardholder not present" transaction is easy to do......just need the card and the cardholders address, and many sites will ship to alternate addresses. I mean a card can easily be nicked from mail left in shared premises for example or burgled from a known address or lifted in a purse/wallet with a driving licence in it, so home address is easily known; that and the card and you're home and dry.

and the retailer takes the hit, not the card company.

Have you tried buying a laptop or expensive TV online lately? some retailers give you the third degree, bigger ones just take a hit if the s**t hits the fan.

[BMWZ4MC]

...in fact, it was the poor feedback from the car which stopped the tyres reaching their full potential!

Is this why the steering feels so light?

Not at all... It's just my standard dig about the rubbish handling of the Audi TT. Actually, I found the ZZ3s to be pretty reasonable, and the car a pile of poo!

[peddy]

BMWZ4MC, How would you rate them in the wet?

[BMWZ4MC]

It was a long time ago, but I don't remember any probs

[chris]

Ive never had any problems with camskill, saying that not used them lately.

Avon ZZ3's i would not use again, they are ok when done 1000 miles, bit like the FK452's really. But imo get the FK452's. Still not a better tyre for the money imho. Unless you are feeling flush and get some pilot sport 2's. Love these

[Aliv6]

Had them on my old 172, purely because i got them free! (We were racing Caterhams and they were new out and the Scottish agent at Knockhill wanted them tested) They were rubbish imo!

[Pope]

How did these come togehter guys, I have been offered them with My CSL's and I will be taking the car to the ring first week of August so 700 miles there to wear them in first.

[peddy]

How did these come togehter guys, I have been offered them with My CSL's and I will be taking the car to the ring first week of August so 700 miles there to wear them in first.

Yeah, that should be enough to wear them in.
They are good, but for about £100 more I would get hankook s1's or v12's.

[cj_eds]

I had them on a previous car and they were great tyres. Unfortunately can't say much more because what suits one car mightn't perform on others well.