Engine Management Light - Code Check

blueshoe5000 · Post by **blueshoe5000** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:15 pm

Afternoon Guys,
The engine management light came on on the way to work this mornign. The car spluttered to pick up any power. So i stopped by the side of the road, switched off the car off and then restarted and was running fine.

I spoke to Birds Indy specialist http://www.birdsauto.com/ about havin the diagnostic check completed as the car is still under warranty with a dealer i bought it from.
They charge £75. Is this the going rate for having diagnostic checks completed. Also are there any other Indy's in or around the North or West London areas who you could recommend??

Cheers in advance!

playalistic · Post by **playalistic** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:07 pm

Is it BMW warranty you're referring to? I'd leave it and see if it happens again. If it does bring it into BMW (provided it is BMW warranty we're talking about) and they'll get it seen to. They only charge diagnostics if it is proven to be a non-warrantied item at fault or if nothing was found to be wrong and even then it is down to their discretion.

If it is a third party warranty just bring it to any local indie with an ODBII kit to read the faults.

blueshoe5000 · Post by **blueshoe5000** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:23 pm

Cheers playalistic, Unfortunately it's under 3rd party/car dealer warranty. So I'm going to try a local indie.
Funnily enough, my car had its last service at birds before i bought it (Service book stamp) . They mentioned it has/had a gruppe m air intake!
I'm itching to get out of the office and see if it's still there!!

playalistic · Post by **playalistic** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:32 pm

I was going to say you'd know if it was but then I guess you wouldn't if you'd not driven a car without it

Fingers crossed you have it there but I'd imagine the previous owner would have removed it and flogged it separately! They're not cheap by any stretch

markos · Post by **markos** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:47 pm

Try Stephen James BMW in Enfield, I have paid around £99 for diagnostics before (on an M3), not sure if that's for an hour and if they charge half that for a half hour diagnostic?

Speak to Del in Service, he's a good guy.

blueshoe5000 wrote:Afternoon Guys,
The engine management light came on on the way to work this mornign. The car spluttered to pick up any power. So i stopped by the side of the road, switched off the car off and then restarted and was running fine.

I spoke to Birds Indy specialist http://www.birdsauto.com/ about havin the diagnostic check completed as the car is still under warranty with a dealer i bought it from.
They charge £75. Is this the going rate for having diagnostic checks completed. Also are there any other Indy's in or around the North or West London areas who you could recommend??

Cheers in advance!

blueshoe5000 · Post by **blueshoe5000** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:52 pm

markos wrote:Try Stephen James BMW in Enfield, I have paid around £99 for diagnostics before (on an M3), not sure if that's for an hour and if they charge half that for a half hour diagnostic?

Speak to Del in Service, he's a good guy.

blueshoe5000 wrote:Afternoon Guys,
The engine management light came on on the way to work this mornign. The car spluttered to pick up any power. So i stopped by the side of the road, switched off the car off and then restarted and was running fine.

I spoke to Birds Indy specialist http://www.birdsauto.com/ about havin the diagnostic check completed as the car is still under warranty with a dealer i bought it from.
They charge £75. Is this the going rate for having diagnostic checks completed. Also are there any other Indy's in or around the North or West London areas who you could recommend??

Cheers in advance!

Cheers Markos

They only up the road from me so will give them a call. Had my previous car with them too!

blueshoe5000 · Post by **blueshoe5000** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:56 pm

playalistic wrote:I was going to say you'd know if it was but then I guess you wouldn't if you'd not driven a car without it

Fingers crossed you have it there but I'd imagine the previous owner would have removed it and flogged it separately! They're not cheap by any stretch

Playatastic, you're not gonna belive this but A quick search on here for "gruupe M for sale " has revealed the previous owner was on here (car description and timelines suggest it - username ///rage) .... and it was sold

i would have recognised it if it was there, but i dont remember seeing one!

AlanJ · Post by **AlanJ** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:02 pm

Car under warranty

Goes wrong.....

so your taking it to another garage and paying money to get it fixed. If I was the selling dealer I would certainly say that it would invalidate the warranty

playalistic · Post by **playalistic** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:04 pm

blueshoe5000 wrote:
playalistic wrote:I was going to say you'd know if it was but then I guess you wouldn't if you'd not driven a car without it

Fingers crossed you have it there but I'd imagine the previous owner would have removed it and flogged it separately! They're not cheap by any stretch
Playatastic, you're not gonna belive this but A quick search on here for "gruupe M for sale " has revealed the previous owner was on here (car description and timelines suggest it - username ///rage) .... and it was sold i would have recognised it if it was there, but i dont remember seeing one!

D'oh! I was going to buy it at one point too. Wish I did as it would have saved me £400

blueshoe5000 · Post by **blueshoe5000** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:33 pm

AlanJ wrote:Car under warranty
Goes wrong.....

so your taking it to another garage and paying money to get it fixed. If I was the selling dealer I would certainly say that it would invalidate the warranty

well spotted!
I bought the car quite far from where i live. +100 miles so figured i might as well have it checked out (but not fixed) locally. but i will give the selling dealer a call.

Plus not sure if the problem still exists as the EML light doesn't stay on. Can anyone clarify: If there is an issue, would the EML light stay on whilst driving , or it just be illuminated for a few seconds on startup?

benlumley · Post by **benlumley** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:37 pm

playalistic wrote:They only charge diagnostics if it is proven to be a non-warrantied item at fault or if nothing was found to be wrong and even then it is down to their discretion.

So ... they charge then.

markos · Post by **markos** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:51 pm

I made a warranty claim from an independent trader on my M3, and he advised me to take the car to BMW for a diagnostic at my expense, which I did. Worth doing if the trader is an hour or two away from you (especially the way fuel is rising in cost nowadays

)

From that point on BMW carried out a repair at the trader's request and he paid for it. Needed to get a little legal on him when he kept forgetting to pick up his phone, and then he toed the line nicely

OP: mention my name and silver grey M3 and Del (Derren) will know who I am.

blueshoe5000 · Post by **blueshoe5000** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:57 pm

cheers Markos, Here's hoping i dont have to go that far. Maybe i'm just being naive, first M car and all that!

so anyone know if the EML light is suposed to stay on?

playalistic · Post by **playalistic** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:05 pm

blueshoe5000 wrote:cheers Markos, Here's hoping i dont have to go that far. Maybe i'm just being naive, first M car and all that!

so anyone know if the EML light is suposed to stay on?

Sometimes they will appear and disappear but the fault will always be logged in the system anyway. One thing to consider is your battery health. Sometimes these transient things are caused by a battery on its way out.

blueshoe5000 · Post by **blueshoe5000** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:30 pm

nice one, playalistic.

I really do hope it is something like that. I'll have a better idea once i speak to the dealer today and see if i get home without the aid of a tow truck

thanks for you help all!

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